3 minutes ago, barramundilure said:

Sorry but I’ve been saying this for a long time, PMDG and their business practices and customer service if you can call it that) are a disgrace. Where are all those brave PMDG groupies now......?

what a shock, the NGX not updated for p3D5 and the NGXu - very little more than a service pack at full cost - what a joke.  They show their true colours once again, and the B777 is never going to get updated, so if you buy it expecting it to be, based on their never ending and obviously misleading information - you probably deserve to get fleeced now.

 

Sorry, but can't agree with that. Their business practices are nothing like a disgrace and their customer service has always been steller from my experience.

With respect to those who think the NGX should be supported to infity, I disagree. They have released a new version and it's improved. It's worthy of your money. Calling the NGXu just a service pack is misleading.

PMDG does not need to update the NGX, and in some ways it's better business sense for them not to. It's just that the production of a V5 version would be very easy, so it would be really nice for them to do so as a gesture of goodwill to the community.

I'm not going to hate them for not doing it - it's a business decision at the end of the day. They make great planes, and whilst they seem very expensive, I have no idea what the profit margins are versus the time spent coding. But if you're reading this RSR , there are some Avsim folk who would really appreciate a new installer!

24 minutes ago, ahsmatt7 said:

Sales are for a limited time. That's how they work. That's why it was eventually stopped. 

Because PMDG knows that there are insane amounts of interest in msfs 2020 from the community. Therefore they offered an option to get the airplane for both platforms. 

Why do YOU feel you are entitled to the ngxu for free across two different platforms?

Simple. There was not supposed to be NGXu. Only NG3. NGXu is a in between step so to say. That tells me both are most likely more or less the same product. And that is why it is unfair to ask a customer to pay a full price twice - especially since there was a special offer solely based on that. 

31 minutes ago, ahsmatt7 said:

Code for what? I mentioned a number of current titles in that post you quoted. 

Code for the PMDG737. The differences for a P3D version versus a MFS one will not be vast. Neither were differences between the FSX and P3D ones.

Just now, Ray Proudfoot said:

Code for the PMDG737. The differences for a P3D version versus a MFS one will not be vast. Neither were differences between the FSX and P3D ones.

How do you know this?

22 minutes ago, ahsmatt7 said:

You can burn down your own straw man. I'm not going to do it for you.

 

What on earth are you talking about?

Just now, ahsmatt7 said:

How do you know this?

Because they’re all based on the same underlying engine - ESP.

8 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

What on earth are you talking about?

Because they’re all based on the same underlying engine - ESP.

Google straw man argument. You'll see why I said that.

If you can provide verifiable and citable documents proving your claims specifically regarding the work PMDG did or didn't do when making the airplane for each individual platform, then I'll back off.

Edited April 13, 20206 yr by ahsmatt7

7 minutes ago, ahsmatt7 said:

Google straw man argument. You'll see why I said that.

If you can provide verifiable and citable documents proving your claims specifically regarding the work PMDG did or didn't do when making the airplane for each individual platform, then I'll back off.

Get off your high horse. I don’t need to prove anything to you. By the way, I asked you some questions in this topic. I’m still waiting for your answer.

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/572967-new-update-from-pmdg-rob-randazzo/?do=findComment&comment=4209425

 

This thread is pretty pointless. It can be summed up in three lines:

1. It would be really nice if PMDG made an NGX installer for V5.

2. They’ve said quite simply that that is not going to happen.

3. Whilst we may not like it, it is valid business decision as the NGX has been replaced by another product.

Edited April 13, 20206 yr by OzWhitey

cheers pmdg $80 down the drain for the same 737 with some fancy new pbr textures if i want it for v5 😛

1 hour ago, ols500 said:

cheers pmdg $80 down the drain for the same 737 with some fancy new pbr textures if i want it for v5 😛

You'll be waiting till they sell some 747s for v5 first too like with v4 when it arrived

2 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Get off your high horse. I don’t need to prove anything to you. By the way, I asked you some questions in this topic. I’m still waiting for your answer.

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/572967-new-update-from-pmdg-rob-randazzo/?do=findComment&comment=4209425

 

I'm done with this. This is pathetic haha

 

Edited April 14, 20206 yr by ahsmatt7

Wow, the bloom is coming off the V5 rose. What's next? People whining that they didn't get a 50-100% performance boost? 

4 minutes ago, jabloomf1230 said:

Wow, the bloom is coming off the V5 rose. What's next? People whining that they didn't get a 50-100% performance boost? 

Oh they'll get a 50 percent performance boost for sure. But then they'll install everything including the kitchen sink and shove all the sliders so far over to the right that they'll be coming off the side of their monitor. And then they'll start whining about the frame rates.

An interesting read and thread Gentlemen ...  

Incidentally there has been no mention by anyone on here about the IFly 737 for P3D v5 and whether there will be a new version or indeed the current version will work in the new simulator?  ....and whether we have to put our hands in our pockets ... 

i really do like the IFly 737 as a great alternative to the PMDG version and it’s quite a bit cheaper!!! 

Edited April 14, 20206 yr by Paul_
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