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Real weather : Regular vs True Sky

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Regular 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iokqyq1z6i1184/Foto 27-04-2020 19 58 24.jpg?dl=0
 

True Sky

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u9fdmjdsvb2ezyz/Foto 27-04-2020 19 55 22.jpg?dl=0

See the curved serrated line that only appears with True Sky enabled

Edited by GSalden

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16 minutes ago, GSalden said:

See the curved serrated line that only appears with True Sky enabled

Yea, that's the clumsy attempt at cloud shadowing. I meant to try just disabling cloud shadows with Truesky to see what it looks like then. Haven't done it yet, though.

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2 minutes ago, Chapstick said:

That's supposed to be a cloud shadow

Guess you are right. At this stage it is better to disable cloud shadows when using TrueSky.

- Harry 

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But I do find two things intersting with this comparison shot.  First, I appreciate that the lower visibility with Truesky no longer causes the weirdness you see in your 'old school' shot where the trees pop through the low visibility.  That's one of the things I love about Truesky.  The second is that in this scene, Truesky is only using 500MB more VRAM. In your 'old school' atmospherics shot, are you using any 3rd party cloud textures?  I haven't tried any third party cloud (Envtex/ASCA/Rex/etc) could textures in v5 to do a true comparison, but my suspician was that Truesky actually isn't as much of a VRAM penalty as we might have assumed when compared with VRAM consumed by third party textures in a couldy scene... Curious what you have employed for that shot.

5800X3D | Radeon RX 6900XT

Regardless the trueSky screen shot is far more realistic and better looking than the other one.

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We see a glimp of what True Sky is able to show.

What I do find kind of a problem is that True Sky is licensed so we probably cannot modify things to our own tastes.

I my case with a real size cockpit the sun is 4-5x too small.in regular mode I can change the size very easily.

Regarding the visibility : in V4 I use my custom PTA presets which improves Raleigh scattering and haze effects ( depending on time, month and precipitation) and that has its influence on visibility.

We’ll have to see what comes ...

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According to my observations, TrueSKY significantly affects FPS. Reduces by 25%.

Over the years, I have developed an allergy to everything that kills FPS.)

In jurisprudence, there is a principle - you look for the person who benefits.

Why not take a real screenshot instead of using your phone...so much information gets lost in this process.

(And even so, truesky looks 10 times better)

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TrueSky kills 50% fps in my experience, here ha video where you can see the difference. With TrueSky you can see clouds at 300 miles, but the atmosphere is not mature for flying with a liner or similar planes, also the "volumetric clouds" are terrible. The normal sky boosts the performance but with the same problems as before with a bit more elaborated 2D clouds. The weather engine is from Rex5, no cloud structures added and no other syncs.

 

Edited by rampa

Missing the PMDG DC6 in MSFS 2024 (she's here, but...).

True sky doesn’t really kill my FPS at all. I use a 2080ti, so, maybe it’s all GPu based? 

Edited by Ianrivaldosmith

Did some testing with realweather injected by FSRealWX v3 and predefined P3Dv5 weather theme. Every setup and usage of the sim is different (EnvTex/Envshade). I'm mostly fly slow and low (below clouds). In a nutshell, TrueSky looks fancy, eyes candy, sometimes totally irrealistic, sometime very immersive, lack of cloud shadow. In conclusion, I need a weather generator capable of managing these new features, workaround the limitation. But most of all, it looks to me as a showcase or a demo.

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I checked, the FPS drop by 36%

 (EVGA 2080 Ti  FTW3 Hybrid)

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Edited by BMW969

In jurisprudence, there is a principle - you look for the person who benefits.

I find the "word" clumsy hitting the nail on the head!

I really wished they would have put in some more effort to create a more realsitic environment/sky and tackle some "bugs" or "clumsy" looking behaviour.....

Let´s hope they will make step forward in the next few months. If we have to wait another 6 months for the next release with some "tiny" steps forward I would be a little disappointed.

But...think positiv and see what they will offer us (they = LM OR 3.Party Devs)

Marcus

Regards,

Marcus P.

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24 minutes ago, BMW969 said:

I checked, the FPS drop by 36%

 (EVGA 2080 Ti  FTW3 Hybrid)

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You won’t notice anything flying at 30 hertz /Unlimited or 60 hertz/Half refresh rate...

Here I use 30 with a lot of features and eyecandy and it is smooth ...

And some features cost performance. No problem with that.

A smooth Sim is the only thing that counts

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