Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
penta_a

PMDG and P3D V5 compatibility update (03 May) by RR

Recommended Posts

https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-forum/general-discussion-news-and-announcements/59564-03may20-weekend-update-747-update-pending-and-a-bunch-of-other-run-on-sentences

[03MAY20] Weekend Update: 747 Update Pending and a bunch of other run-on sentences...

Today, 09:28
 
Captains,

I had originally planned to post this update on Saturday morning while sipping my coffee, but when I woke and saw that it was beautifully sunny, 75F/24C and not raining for the first time in nearly 11 weeks- I abandoned my "usual" Saturday morning routine in order to spend some time outdoors working on all those yard projects that come with home ownership... These are normally tasks that annoy me- but it has been so darned long since we saw any true sun around Northern Virginia- even pulling weeds under the watchful eye of the golden retriever was a welcome break from monotony- so please forgive me. cool.png

PMDG 747 Updates:
The last few weeks, we have been extremely hard at work wrapping up an major update for the PMDG 747 Queen of the Skies II product line. This update covers a massive amount of ground in terms adding some very nice polish and fitness to an already high quality product line, with new wing and tail structural physics, new lift/drag models, updated performance for the GEnX engine type, update ground physics (huge overhaul that I am now pushing backward to NGXu) updated braking physics (we broke all braking across the 747/737 line a few months back... oops) and a ton of other bug fixes, corrections and improvements.

While all of this was going on, we also decided to fold in the required changes for P5D, which were significant. Updated models, updated VCs, updated textures, restructuring of the EFB and Nav display to be able to read the new scenery file layout, and the changes go on and on.

Some have had questions about many of the new features in P5D and whether we will capitalize on them right away. The short answer is: Not until we get all of the product lines compatible. THEN we will start to work in the changes.

This update for the 747 has taken some time- or, to put it differently- *we* have taken our time with it. We made substantial changes to the product in order to bring it up to the modern standard with which we are working in our code base- and these changes needed very thorough testing to be sure we don't leave any problems behind to upset an otherwise smooth simming experience. I think our beta team will agree that we have put no pressure on them at all and we have been cataloging their feedback, pushing fixes at them constantly, and asking them to be very thorough in their efforts to break this airplane. They have succeeded marvelously in that regard- while also giving us feedback on things that they thought could use improving (steering on the tug during pushback for instance) and we have invested a significant amount of time and energy into answering their inquiries.

The good news is that this code is readily portable back to NGXu- and stomping out the issues now will make it a MUCH easier port over to the 777 code base which desperately needs some of this new technology for refreshing the product line.

We have pushed a new beta to the test team for the weekend. They have reported back with one significant item that I need to investigate- but once we have that tacked down and re-tested we will be ready to push this update out. If all goes well- it should be with you in time for the weekend. <<DANGER: This expectation could go up in smoke if something major bubbles up- but obviously I'm pretty comfortable that won't happen at this juncture...>>

One note one how this update will roll out: This will be a full download/uninstall/reinstall. This is made necessary by a combination of broad-based changes in the product line, as well as the P5D compatibility changes that are pending. The good news is that it will get everyone on the same cycle.

PMDG 737 NGXu Updates:
Once we have the 747 out of the way, we will begin pushing 737 updates to the testing team for them to suss out. The updates for the 737 are **mostly** already completed and waiting for the 747 to clear the testing circuit so that they can be validated. I don't think we should be looking at more than a few weeks of testing on the 737, and that update will also be a full re-download and will include functionality for P5D as well.

Work on the BBJ expansion continues apace and we hope to give you a preview of that in the not-too-distant future. The product is probably preview ready today, but we are so darned busy that nobody has the time to focus on that just yet. Work also continues on the cargo variants- and we'll have more information on that one for you in a few weeks, I hope.

PMDG 777 Updates:
For a while, we had slid the 777 update ahead of the NGXu update, but this reversed itself when we got the P5D release schedule and realized it was sooner than we had originally expected. (Quite a bit sooner- but that was just a bad guess on our part.) I'll be honest and tell you that the 777 update timeline is creating quite a bit of anxiety around PMDG of late, because we are very heavily engaged across multiple platforms and multiple products- and if the 777 update proves to have the gestational problems that the 747 had with these updates- it could really become a drag for all of us waiting for this to get pushed out to you. The good news is that we killed a significant number of problems in moving the new technology into the 747 so that should smooth the path for the 777 a bit- but this is software and things never go smoothly in software...

PMDG Global Flight Operations:
We have been quite hush-hush on this topic during the past few months, but we are preparing to begin expanding the testing realm for this product line. We have collected from this forum and from our interaction with simmers in other locations a list of folks that we think would make good, enthusiastic, critical wide-area testers and we anticipate reaching out to them in the near future in order to bring them into the testing process. The purpose of their testing is to drive users through the back-end customer management process and to get an initial batch of users that is larger than our regular testing team in order to proof-check load balancing and a bunch of boring back-end stuff. We are also interested to see what they think of the project structure and direction, since this is a growing platform that will evolve and grow over time...

Okay- I think I am forgetting something that I was planning to tell you- but for the life of me I cannot remember what it was. <ticks items off on his fingers, mumbles about an MD-11, laughs hysterically>> wink.png

Have a great weekend- and I hope you all continue to be safe and healthy... and don't forget to maintain a sense of humor, too. If you stop laughing- you aren't having any fun.
 
  • Like 4
  • Upvote 2

Ali A.

MSFS on PC: I9-13900KS | ASUS ROG STRIX Z790 MB | 32GB DDR5/7200MHz RAM | ASUS TUF RTX4090 OCE | 1TB M.2 Samsung 990 Pro (Windows) +2TB Samsung 990 Pro for MSFS + 2TB Samsung 860 EVO SSD for DATA | EK-Nucleus AIO CR360 Lux D-RGB CPU cooler.

HP Reverb G2 VR (occasional use) | ASUS ROG Strix XG43UQ 4K monitor | Tobii Eye tracker 5 | Logitech sound system 7.1 | VIRPIL Controls (Joystick + thrust levers + rudder pedals) | Windows 11 Pro.

Share this post


Link to post

is it me or am i the only one  who's a bit angry with PMDG.they got V5 before everyone else it seems and they are still two weeks away from updating the NGXu to v5.they are not adding any extra features,just making it work in V5.

must be lockdown getting to me,normally i keep quiet.

 

 steve

  • Like 1
  • Upvote 3

Share this post


Link to post
Guest FlyingBubbles

No you're not the only one. I usually never post anything and we are most likely to get censored but I am also getting angry at PMDG. Not only for their rip-off prices but mainly for that JS41 Beta for P3D they teased more than a year ago. This is turning out to be one very long Beta test..... I used to be one of their biggest fans but now doubting.

For the moment, I am having A LOT more fun with Zibo Mod in X-Plane. It is free and a lot more immersive and just feels a lot more like flying a real 737. This is subjective of course but just my feeling.

And yeah, they seem to be privileged to a lot of things, such as v5 before anyone else and probably MSFS 2020 but somehow always come out more expensive and not better quality.

Sorry for the rant but I feel that something is just not right with them...

 

MJ

Edited by FlyingBubbles

Share this post


Link to post
2 minutes ago, FlyingBubbles said:

No you're not the only one. I usually never post anything but I am also getting angry at PMDG. Not only for their rip-off prices but mainly for that JS41 Beta for P3D they teased more than a year ago. This is turning out to be one very long Beta test.....

For the moment, I am having A LOT more fun with Zibo Mod in X-Plane. It is free and a lot more immersive and just feels a lot more like flying a real 737. This is subjective of course but just my feeling.

And yeah, they seem to be privileged to a lot of things, such as v5 before anyone else and probably MSFS 2020 but somehow always come out more expensive and not better quality.

Sorry for the rant but I feel that something is just not right with them...

Rip-off prices, X-Plane better, all the quality talking points to a PMDG thread. 

  • Like 1
  • Upvote 1

Asus TUF X670E-PLUS | 7800X3D | G.Skill 32GB DDR @ CL30 6000MHz | RTX 4090 Founders Edition (Undervolted) | WD SNX 850X 2TB + 4TB + 4TB

Share this post


Link to post
34 minutes ago, steve howlett said:

is it me or am i the only one  who's a bit angry with PMDG.they got V5 before everyone else it seems and they are still two weeks away from updating the NGXu to v5.they are not adding any extra features,just making it work in V5.

must be lockdown getting to me,normally i keep quiet.

 

 steve

I seems the 747 will come first then the NGu, am still on 4.5 and will stay there until AS/PMDG NG/FSL are all up and working.

I will not name them but there are people on this forum that put down MSFS with every chance they have with " there going to be be a lot of disappointed people" etc and "it will take ages before it works" etc etc. 

I will remind them off how v5 was released etc, I find it pathetic and there is no reason that we cannot enjoy every flight sim out there if we wish to do so. It's all a win-win in my eyes.

P3D v5 is going to take time and i will at the right time use it and i will buy on day one MSFS and enjoy that also.

Edited by Nyxx
  • Upvote 1

David Murden  MSFS   Fenix A320  PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi •  FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet 

 Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF   Flightsim.to •

DCS  A10c II  F-16c  F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier  Terrains = • Nevada NTTR  Persian Gulf  Syria • Marianas • 

• 10900K@4.9 All Cores HT ON   32GB DDR4  3200MHz RTX 3080  • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos®  Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip

Share this post


Link to post
Guest FlyingBubbles

Ok, my apologies, this might start getting out of hand... so I withdraw what I said. Lockdown is getting to me too.

Still disappointed about the JS41 though 😞

Share this post


Link to post

I know it's complicated software,so i should keep my trap shut.just miffed that it's still weeks away.

 steve

Share this post


Link to post

normally i would have posted on the pmdg pages,i just don't go there.can't stand one of there mods.

 

steve

 

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post

And... what about the DC-6?

  • Like 1

Missing the PMDG DC6 in MSFS 2020 (she's here, but...).

Share this post


Link to post
1 hour ago, steve howlett said:

is it me or am i the only one

Just you...


David Porrett

Share this post


Link to post

Yes, what about the DC-6? It's, by far, my favorite PMDG aircraft.

  • Like 1

David A Gubert

Share this post


Link to post
5 minutes ago, DavidP said:

Just you...

your sarcasm is all over the forums..maybe you have a think aout how you respond to most of the posts you answer.anyway i blame lockdown.

 

Edited by steve howlett
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post

747: I hope they don’t screw the taxiing up like the 737. Some may like it but most don’t. In fact I thought the 747 was fine before.  
737:  I realize this is their biggest seller. To me my dislike of this plane in real life biases me. 95 percent of the time I pick the fslabs, tfdi 717, or maddog x md80 from my hangar when given a choice.  So I’m not chomping at the bit

777:  this was supposed to be on final approach or so I thought  even saw the pbr pics of it already  I hope they get this out sometime soon

 

 


5800X3D, Gigabyte X570S MB, 4090FE, 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW  and 2  22" monitors,  Corsair RM1000x PSU,  360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Saitek Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next

Share this post


Link to post
1 hour ago, steve howlett said:

normally i would have posted on the pmdg pages,i just don't go there.can't stand one of there mods.

 

steve

 

If it’s who I am thinking he got kicked last Dec

  • Upvote 2

David Murden  MSFS   Fenix A320  PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi •  FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet 

 Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF   Flightsim.to •

DCS  A10c II  F-16c  F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier  Terrains = • Nevada NTTR  Persian Gulf  Syria • Marianas • 

• 10900K@4.9 All Cores HT ON   32GB DDR4  3200MHz RTX 3080  • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos®  Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip

Share this post


Link to post

Now who was it who said the 744 would be released first to get some sales going.... Ahhh yes it was me 😏


 
 
 
 
14ppkc-6.png
  913456

Share this post


Link to post

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
  • Tom Allensworth,
    Founder of AVSIM Online


  • Flight Simulation's Premier Resource!

    AVSIM is a free service to the flight simulation community. AVSIM is staffed completely by volunteers and all funds donated to AVSIM go directly back to supporting the community. Your donation here helps to pay our bandwidth costs, emergency funding, and other general costs that crop up from time to time. Thank you for your support!

    Click here for more information and to see all donations year to date.
×
×
  • Create New...