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How are you limiting your frame rate?

How are you limiting your frame rate?  

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  1. 1. What's your setup?

    • Unlimited (no VSYNC)
      18
    • Unlimited (VSYNC 30Hz Monitor)
      32
    • Unlimited (VSYNC >30Hz Monitor)
      15
    • Unlimited + RTSS (scanline sync)
      5
    • Unlimited + RTSS (framerate limit)
      4
    • Unlimited + Nvidia control panel framerate limit
      45
    • Unlimited + Nvidia inspector framerate limit
      11
    • P3D internal framerate limit
      63
    • Combination of internal and external limiter (external fps < internal fps)
      16
    • Other setup
      4
  2. 2. What is your frame rate limit?

    • < 20 fps
      0
    • 20-29 fps
      26
    • 30 fps
      123
    • 60 fps
      23
    • Other limit
      41


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4 minutes ago, ShezA said:

I think use only scanline sync and leave the frame rate limiter at zero, it will automatically adjust to monitor refresh rate.

But my monitor refresh rate is 60Hz. I want that to remain for mouse action otherwise I might as well do what I was doing previously.


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My monitor is at 60Hz. I only use the scanline x/2 with -1 as a parameter. I leave the frame rate in RTSS at 0. Result is monitor refreshes at 60Hz, but P3D is externally limited to ~30fps (by the scanline sync x/2).

I'll reiterate that my P3D settings are unlimited, vsync off and TB off. And just to confuse things further 🙂 I select TB in NVI, to put the burden of TB on the graphics card as opposed to the CPU and P3D.

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All of this work. Did it ever occur to anyone, maybe, just maybe, the sim itself is just ‘broke’? Don’t have this problem with other sims. 
Sure, It’s glorious when it works, but when it doesn’t, man, it doesn’t half take up your time learning to be a computer engineer, to fix small annoying stutters that ruin the immersion of fight. It gets to a point where you just say, no more. Drives you insane.  

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That's interesting but VSYNC + 30Hz monitor doesn't work for me in P3Dv5. When I go to outside vc view the fps counter shows over 40+. I check my monitor and it shows V30Hz, in-game frame rate unlimited, vsync On.,

So I ended up going back to limiting fps in NCP. Any ideas?

Thanks.

PS: Windows 2004 build 19631 (update from couple of days back)

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I´m using RTSS also and I´m quite happy with the results. I have set the frame limiter to 59,935 since I got 60hz monitor. In the Scansync section I´m using the value of 1000(!). This is to get rid of the tearline... I found a web site where they talked about RTSS and I got those numbers from there. In P3D I got vsync ticked and TB ticked. And also in NVI I got TB ticked. Not quite sure if these make any sense but never the less, I´m pretty happy with the results. 


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3 hours ago, bbuckley said:

My guess is many people just don't want to install and run yet another add-on utility and elect to use features already installed.

@Noel this confuses me, and I think you said it earlier also. Why would you use vsync in P3D AND RTSS scanline sync x/2 (-1)? Just scanline sync x/2 will give you the 30fps result.

"but you will of course continue to use vsync as the means to get to 30fps."

No doubt that was confusing way to say what I meant, "RTSS will be effectively vsyncing by taking your 60Hz screen and syncing to half it's rate using the 60Hz/2 value, so this will generate 30fps..."   

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10 hours ago, Virtpilot said:

I´m using RTSS also and I´m quite happy with the results. I have set the frame limiter to 59,935 since I got 60hz monitor. In the Scansync section I´m using the value of 1000(!). This is to get rid of the tearline... I found a web site where they talked about RTSS and I got those numbers from there. In P3D I got vsync ticked and TB ticked. And also in NVI I got TB ticked. Not quite sure if these make any sense but never the less, I´m pretty happy with the results. 

Curious. Why do you have vsync ticked? The RTSS is performing that function for you. 


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17 hours ago, bbuckley said:

My monitor is at 60Hz. I only use the scanline x/2 with -1 as a parameter. I leave the frame rate in RTSS at 0. Result is monitor refreshes at 60Hz, but P3D is externally limited to ~30fps (by the scanline sync x/2).

I'll reiterate that my P3D settings are unlimited, vsync off and TB off. And just to confuse things further 🙂 I select TB in NVI, to put the burden of TB on the graphics card as opposed to the CPU and P3D.

Bruce, I'm not seeing the "-1 as a parameter".  What is it, and where is it set if you will?


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How come P3Dv5 Vsync On + Unlimited and 30Hz monitor refresh rate consistently produce 40+ fps on the red counter (in a light scenario or light views), fullscreen?

However 60Hz monitor, 1/2 refresh in NVInspector, no VSYNC and Unlimited in P3Dv5 keep fps capped around 30, fullscreen?

Any ideas? Latest drivers and Win 2004 Build 19631 here.

Thanks.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Noel said:

Bruce, I'm not seeing the "-1 as a parameter".  What is it, and where is it set if you will?

You click the down button on the right of scanline sync.

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1 hour ago, ShezA said:

You click the down button on the right of scanline sync.

What is the purpose of this parameter?

 


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10 hours ago, ShezA said:

Curious. Why do you have vsync ticked? The RTSS is performing that function for you. 

Okay, have to untick that one and see how does that goes. This hold RTSS is quite bizzard to me and I´m always open to new ideas....


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34 minutes ago, Noel said:

What is the purpose of this parameter?

 

I would check on websites that specialise in RTSS scanline sync parameters as when I went through them they were a bit too technical. I then took some pointers and through trial and error settled on -2. 


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On what basis did you 'settle'?  Less long frames?  Better panning? What prompted you to choose -2 instead of 0 or -1?

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I chose -1 to put the tear line just below the screen and out of view. 


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