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How are you limiting your frame rate?


How are you limiting your frame rate?  

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  1. 1. What's your setup?

    • Unlimited (no VSYNC)
      21
    • Unlimited (VSYNC 30Hz Monitor)
      33
    • Unlimited (VSYNC >30Hz Monitor)
      16
    • Unlimited + RTSS (scanline sync)
      6
    • Unlimited + RTSS (framerate limit)
      4
    • Unlimited + Nvidia control panel framerate limit
      48
    • Unlimited + Nvidia inspector framerate limit
      12
    • P3D internal framerate limit
      71
    • Combination of internal and external limiter (external fps < internal fps)
      17
    • Other setup
      4
  2. 2. What is your frame rate limit?

    • < 20 fps
      0
    • 20-29 fps
      28
    • 30 fps
      134
    • 60 fps
      23
    • Other limit
      47


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Posted

Try the frame rate limiter in the MSI Afterburner/ Riva Tuner SS. Works really well with the unlimited setting. RTSS/Afterburner also has some other great features where you can monitor key GPU/CPU parameters on screen.

https://ibb.co/ZmpjZp9

See top right.

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Shez Ansari

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Posted
2 hours ago, ShezA said:

Try the frame rate limiter in the MSI Afterburner/ Riva Tuner SS. Works really well with the unlimited setting. RTSS/Afterburner also has some other great features where you can monitor key GPU/CPU parameters on screen.

https://ibb.co/ZmpjZp9

See top right.

Yes, I'm surprised so few say they use it. I use P3D UNLIMITED, NO VSYNC, NO TB but RTSS ScanlineSync x/2 and it's great. And when I want to monitor performance MSi/RTSS has a great on screen display I can turn on and off. 

 

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Posted
3 hours ago, ShezA said:

Try the frame rate limiter in the MSI Afterburner/ Riva Tuner SS. Works really well with the unlimited setting. RTSS/Afterburner also has some other great features where you can monitor key GPU/CPU parameters on screen.

https://ibb.co/ZmpjZp9

See top right.

I will try that next.  NvCP's Max Frame Rate of 30, using unlimited, vsync/TB disabled in-sim, and left the screen at 60Hz, initially looked favorable w/ a solid 30fps but yielded a lot of stutters in a moderate demand scenario w/ ample CPU/GPU headroom.  Nothing so far compares favorably against unlimited/vsycn to a 30Hz capable screen.

Noel

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Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Are you running in full screen mode? (I know it’s not true full screen) 

Do you have g-sync enabled for full screen only or full screen and windowed? 
do you have any other addon windows open and are you on single monitor? 
also, make sure you have vsync forced to ON globally in your Nvidia control panel. 
Do you have VRR selected in the sim menu? 
also, is your g-sync module working ok? Try the Nvidia pendulum software to test it. I once had a broken g-sync and the pendulum software confirmed if for me. 

Windowed mode (But also seems in full screen), Gsync is enabled for full and windowed, single monitor, running v4.5 HF3 so I don’t have the explicit VRR check box option, Pendulum demo works fine.  All CPU cores on 7700K below 100%.

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Posted
On 5/23/2020 at 11:31 PM, Noel said:

Does Low Latency Mode come into play does anyone know, for P3D?

And how about new "Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling" feature in Default graphics settings?

Thanks.

Posted

Probably not a good place to ask for help but since we are on topic, I tried to limit at 30FPS in Nvidia but got flashing black screen.  Tried turning on Vsync and triple buffering, same thing.

So I went back to limiting in sim w/ no vsync and/or triple buffering and black flashing went away.

Thanks.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Dirk98 said:

And how about new "Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling" feature in Default graphics settings?

Thanks.

Low latency mode doesn’t work with DX12. 

Posted
2 hours ago, CaptKornDog said:

Windowed mode (But also seems in full screen), Gsync is enabled for full and windowed, single monitor, running v4.5 HF3 so I don’t have the explicit VRR check box option, Pendulum demo works fine.  All CPU cores on 7700K below 100%.

Possibly the magic trick is the new vrr setting in P3DV5 then? That’s what I’m using ..

Posted
3 hours ago, bbuckley said:

Yes, I'm surprised so few say they use it. I use P3D UNLIMITED, NO VSYNC, NO TB but RTSS ScanlineSync x/2 and it's great. And when I want to monitor performance MSi/RTSS has a great on screen display I can turn on and off. 

 

What is the scanline sync setting you are using? -1?

Shez Ansari

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Posted
51 minutes ago, ShezA said:

What is the scanline sync setting you are using? -1?

Yes. x/2 parameter -1 

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Posted
3 hours ago, bbuckley said:

Yes. x/2 parameter -1 

OK for me it appears -2 is better. Will keep testing.

Shez Ansari

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Posted (edited)

This works with v5 period

Unlimited fps in sim  
VSYNC enabled in sim 
Triple buffer enabled in sim 
Monitor set to (30Hz Monitor) 
 
Flawless victory 🤩🤙🤪 in pretty much every scenario in my sim including areas where insane amount of heavy addons are present (all stress areas have 30fps)
 
 
 
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Posted
17 minutes ago, Skywolf said:

This works with v5 period

Unlimited fps in sim  
VSYNC enabled in sim 
Triple buffer enabled in sim 
Monitor set to (30Hz Monitor) 
 
Flawless victory 🤩🤙🤪 in pretty much every scenario in my sim including areas where insane amount of heavy addons are present (all stress areas have 30fps)
 
 
 

And in v4.5, and in V3.4!

I have been following the work arounds for this, and for people who don't like 30Hz refresh rate.  Until today I had no luck whatsoever including using NvCP's Max Frame Rate limiter at 30 w/ considerable stutters, but today I had a very good experience, comparable to your configuration (and mine) using Riva Tuner's scan line x/2 w/ 60Hz screen w/ vsync/TB/unlimited in sim.  The difference largely being the core that does the main thread sits at 100% using Riva whereas w/ vsync to 30Hz this core varies according to load.  I don't know what that means except I can say as far as core temp they were very much the same.   The Riva method did maintain a steady 30 except once or twice and the flluidity was on a par w/ vsync 30Hz, but on a 60Hz screen.

Noel

System:  7800x3D, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut, Noctua NH-U12A, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Edge Sync for near zero Frame Time Variance achieving ultra-fluid animation at lower frame rates.

Aircraft used in A Pilot's Life V2 & Self Loading Cargo:  PMDG 738, Aerosoft CRJ700, FBW A320nx, WT 787X and Citation Longitude

 

Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, Noel said:

And in v4.5, and in V3.4!

I have been following the work arounds for this, and for people who don't like 30Hz refresh rate.  Until today I had no luck whatsoever including using NvCP's Max Frame Rate limiter at 30 w/ considerable stutters, but today I had a very good experience, comparable to your configuration (and mine) using Riva Tuner's scan line x/2 w/ 60Hz screen w/ vsync/TB/unlimited in sim.  The difference largely being the core that does the main thread sits at 100% using Riva whereas w/ vsync to 30Hz this core varies according to load.  I don't know what that means except I can say as far as core temp they were very much the same.   The Riva method did maintain a steady 30 except once or twice and the flluidity was on a par w/ vsync 30Hz, but on a 60Hz screen.

A lot has been written on the core balancing. I have always used Process Lasso and it perfectly balances the load across whatever cores I assign to P3D. Right now I am using HT on (it helps in overall PC fluidity for other programs) and in PL I use HT disabled specifically assigned only for P3D. So for my CPU PL assigns physical cores 0,2,4,6,8,10 to P3D and 1,3,5,7,9,11 to every other process. I don't use the Affinity Mask tweak.

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Shez Ansari

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I tried the Nvidia Control Panel 30Hz option but default scenery was very stuttery when taxiing at default airports. Ridiculous when in that scenery I could get 80+ with no limitations.

Turned that option off and switched monitor refresh rate to 30Hz. Unlimited with VSync on and Triple Buffering enabled. Works much better now with no stutters at default airports. Used in P3D v3.4 and v4.5. Only downside is mouse action is a bit stuttery but I can live with that.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

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