Hello all,

I am absolutely blown away by the huge number of Australian airports featured in the default system.  It reminds me hugely of the love shown by the sims (all of them) for Australia.

Like the Developers, I am wondering just where Australia is, or, in fact, whether or not it exists.

May well be a pigment of my imagination.

Oh well.

Regards

Tony (a lost Aussie)

Well, it's in the top 8 most dangerous airports to land at:

Here are eight most dangerous airports in the world:

• Lukla Airport: Nepal.
• Toncontin Airport: Tegucigalpa, Honduras.
• Courchevel International Airport: France.
• Princess Juliana International Airport: St Maarten.
• Paro Airport: Bhutan, Himalayan Mountains.
• McMurdo Air Station: Antarctica.
• Saba Airport: St Maarten.

And after being there myself, I think that it's correct. As you mention, it's mostly because they come in very close to people standing right before the runway that makes it a dangerous approach. And, yes I have also been to Skiathos, and I agree with you, that it's more exciting and planes come in really low. And as with St.Maarten, I have seen people being blown around when they're stupid enough to  stand right behind the planes, when they're taking off. So definetly two airports I would love to see as detailed airports.

 

I don’t get it. Whoever made this list, I have no idea what they considered. Just because there are people behind the fence has exactly zero relevance on the approach. Humans aren’t obstacles you’d have to avoid somehow or circumnavigate, especially not when a runway is designed to be crossed at 50‘. I’d rather put up FNC in that list, that’s an actual challenging approach. Although they lack an ILS afaik, TNCM is just a straight in as it is at every major hub and hence no different or more dangerous than landing at, say, LHR.

Edited June 3, 20206 yr by badderjet

15 hours ago, Shack95 said:

What airports do you think are the others? Some of them are really hard to pinpoint, for instance those two in Alaska (Ketchikan?).

I would say Chenega in the North and indeed Ketchikan (talk about sloped taxiways 😁 !). 

I hope they’ll show some love for Skagway and Valdez too.

1 hour ago, jlund said:

Well, it's in the top 8 most dangerous airports to land at:

Here are eight most dangerous airports in the world:

• Lukla Airport: Nepal.
• Toncontin Airport: Tegucigalpa, Honduras.
• Courchevel International Airport: France.
• Princess Juliana International Airport: St Maarten.
• Paro Airport: Bhutan, Himalayan Mountains.
• McMurdo Air Station: Antarctica.
• Saba Airport: St Maarten.

And after being there myself, I think that it's correct. As you mention, it's mostly because they come in very close to people standing right before the runway that makes it a dangerous approach. And, yes I have also been to Skiathos, and I agree with you, that it's more exciting and planes come in really low. And as with St.Maarten, I have seen people being blown around when they're stupid enough to  stand right behind the planes, when they're taking off. So definetly two airports I would love to see as detailed airports.

 

Who tells it? What was the evaluation criteria for dangerousity on this list? 🙂 What is dangerous on TNCM? Maybe a little bit shorter runway for plane category B747, but no extremely short. I don't see anythink dangerous on TNCM. Skiathos or Madeira are really danger for pilots of airliners, not TNCM. But I agree, that TNCM is a very nice and interesant airport and I would like to see it too within detailed airport.

Edited June 3, 20206 yr by ludekbrno

1 hour ago, badderjet said:

... I’d rather put up FNC in that list, that’s an actual challenging approach. 

I think, that FNC will be within detailed airport, some alpha screenshots show it.

1 hour ago, ludekbrno said:

I think, that FNC will be within detailed airport, some alpha screenshots show it.

You're right, I forgot about that one. This is another indication that the star symbols on the world don't mean detailed airports.

Some African airports would be nice!!!

4 hours ago, himmelhorse said:

I am absolutely blown away by the huge number of Australian airports featured in the default system.  It reminds me hugely of the love shown by the sims (all of them) for Australia.

I absolutely understand your concerns and I‘d love to have some highly detailed Aussie airports as well (had one of the best times of my life there); however, I think we don‘t have enough information yet to come to a conclusion in this regard.

Doesn't TNCM have the island right at the end of the runway, making go arounds hard to do?

I hope Meigs Field makes it in the release list.

Regards

bs

9 hours ago, andyjohnston.net said:

Doesn't TNCM have the island right at the end of the runway, making go arounds hard to do?

There is high ground at the far end of Rwy 10. Any go-around would require an immediate left or right turn. Charts will show the procedure. Not a problem. 

I hope not to see VHHX, that will make Bing maps supper obsolete. 😁 and make this as third party ad-don.

The only real problem of TNCM is the really short runway. A lot of heavy planes just can't takeoff from the island with fuel tank loaded. KLM used to operate the flight from schipol with 747, but the return flight had to land to Curacao before heading back to the Netherlands. So now they just send an A330-200 which can takeoff with fuel tank loaded. Same story for Air Caraibes (my favorite airline) they have A332, A333, A359, A35X. The two A332 are still in there fleet because they need to operate flawlessly to TNCM.

TNCM also lack an ILS, so when the weather is bad (it is really often in this part of the world) they have to divert, french airline like Air France or Air Caraibes use to divert to TFFR Guadeloupe or TFFF Martinique (where I live, so if an alpha tester could show me TFFF in the sim I'd be happy).

Anyway the Caribbean is such a fun place to flight, there is so much to do, to see and everything is beautiful, I can't wait to see it in the sim. 

Edited June 4, 20206 yr by cyril972

23 minutes ago, cyril972 said:

 

TNCM also lack an ILS, so when the weather is bad (it is really often in this part of the world) they have to divert, french airline like Air France or Air Caraibes use to divert to TFFR Guadeloupe or TFFF Martinique (where I live, so if an alpha tester could show me TFFF in the sim I'd be happy).

Anyway the Caribbean is such a fun place to flight, there is so much to do, to see and everything is beautiful, I can't wait to see it in the sim. 

Alpha testers won’t be able to show you anything because of NDA.