June 11, 20205 yr This question has been on my mind. Aircraft developers, scenery developers, weather providers and ATC providers will logically start using the new API but I wonder to what affect? The current Alpha / Pre-Release information seems to cover all the bases very well so I'm wondering if there is still a viable market for addon developers or will they be left in the dust? Regards bs Edited June 11, 20205 yr by bean_sprout AMD RYZEN 9 5900X 12 CORE CPU - ZOTAC RTX 3060Ti GPU - NZXT H510i ELITE CASE - EVO M.2 970 500GB DRIVE - 32GB XTREEM 4000 MEM - XPG GOLD 80+ 650 WATT PS - NZXT 280 HYBRID COOLER
June 11, 20205 yr a) Seems a bit early to worry about developers, when the "product" in question is not yet in existence b) All previous releases of MS FS have had a thriving addon developer community.. Do you really expect MS to release a product that is so perfect that no addons can be produced to enhance it? 🙂 Time to find something else to worry about, I would think.. Bert
June 11, 20205 yr 12 minutes ago, bean_sprout said: This question has been on my mind. Aircraft developers, scenery developers, weather providers and ATC providers will logically start using the new API but I wonder to what affect? The current Alpha / Pre-Release information seems to cover all the bases very well so I'm wondering if there is still a viable market for addon developers or will they be left in the dust? Regards bs Give it a month or two and I'm sure there's gonna be loads of people wanting something more than flying the default Airbus between the default airports.
June 11, 20205 yr Author I suppose that it is a different strokes for different strokes question. I was a happy camper with FSX until I bought some ORBX scenery and RealAir planes. On the other hand I don't think that I will need a Weather Addon for MSFS 2020. Regards bs Edited June 11, 20205 yr by bean_sprout AMD RYZEN 9 5900X 12 CORE CPU - ZOTAC RTX 3060Ti GPU - NZXT H510i ELITE CASE - EVO M.2 970 500GB DRIVE - 32GB XTREEM 4000 MEM - XPG GOLD 80+ 650 WATT PS - NZXT 280 HYBRID COOLER
June 11, 20205 yr I think not even the sky is the limit here: Aircraft (we never have enough of those) Airport scenery, ATC voices, AI aircraft, A timetravel mod so you can fly in the 30's with matching scenery... Flightsim rig: CPU: AMD 5900x | Mobo: MSI X570 MEG Unify | RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo | GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3090 | Storage: M.2 (2 & 4 TB) | PSU: Corsair RM850x | Case: Fractal Define 7 XL Display: Acer Predator x34 3440x1440 | Speakers: Logitech Z906 Controllers: Fulcrum One Yoke | MFG Crosswind v2 pedals | Honeycomb Bravo Quadrant |Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant | Stream Deck XL & Plus | TrackIR 5 Tobii eye tracking
June 11, 20205 yr Author 16 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said: a) Seems a bit early to worry about developers, when the "product" in question is not yet in existence b) All previous releases of MS FS have had a thriving addon developer community.. Do you really expect MS to release a product that is so perfect that no addons can be produced to enhance it? 🙂 Time to find something else to worry about, I would think.. Not so much since I am an addon developer. Cheers bs AMD RYZEN 9 5900X 12 CORE CPU - ZOTAC RTX 3060Ti GPU - NZXT H510i ELITE CASE - EVO M.2 970 500GB DRIVE - 32GB XTREEM 4000 MEM - XPG GOLD 80+ 650 WATT PS - NZXT 280 HYBRID COOLER
June 11, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, bean_sprout said: This question has been on my mind. Aircraft developers, scenery developers, weather providers and ATC providers will logically start using the new API but I wonder to what affect? The current Alpha / Pre-Release information seems to cover all the bases very well so I'm wondering if there is still a viable market for addon developers or will they be left in the dust? Regards bs How can we know an answer to your question when the product hasn't even released yet. Another thread with no real reasoning just yet, ask when the product is released and you might get some honest opinions. Edited June 11, 20205 yr by tpete61
June 11, 20205 yr Commercial Member 1 hour ago, bean_sprout said: This question has been on my mind. Aircraft developers, scenery developers, weather providers and ATC providers will logically start using the new API but I wonder to what affect? The current Alpha / Pre-Release information seems to cover all the bases very well so I'm wondering if there is still a viable market for addon developers or will they be left in the dust? Regards bs Single answer, this one best provided by music. Then again... Dave Hodges System Specs: I9-13900KF, NVIDIA 4070TI, Quest 3, Multiple Displays, Lots of TERRIFIC friends, 3 cats, and a wonderfully stubborn wife.
June 11, 20205 yr My honest opinion all I need really from what I see as far as addons; my favorite aircraft, airport scenery, vatsim client and AI aircraft package. With that MSFS will be good for me in 2021.
June 12, 20205 yr There are going to be winners and losers, inevitably. If you produce weather add-ons, texture enhancement packs or generally anything that "fixes" stuff that just works out of the box with MSFS, things aren't looking good. If you produce aircraft or very high quality regional airports there's the possibility of revived flight sim market, plus an MSFS in-app store, where your products will appear in search results seen by 10s, maybe 100s of thousands of users. If development of MSFS is going to continue after release, the 10-30% commission of the in-game add-on market will be a big part of what pays developer salaries at Asobo. With that in mind it's in their interest not to make 1000 high quality custom airports or 50 GA planes part of the default feature set. If there's no subscription, their business model relies on leaving stuff for 3rd party developers to build.
June 12, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, nickhod said: seen by 10s, maybe 100s of thousands of users Sea of Thieves is a Microsoft Xbox/PC game made by a smallish 3rd party UK company (Rare Studios) so in some ways is comparable to FS2020. Granted, it's a completely different genre, but they have 10 million users. 10 million! So yes, a company's potential market exposure should be much larger than currently, all things being equal.
June 12, 20205 yr Hummm...developers for FS2020 There is a place for all... Aerosoft: A full version of the Airbus A320/A330, maybe a version including the 330-200 and different engine variants. PMDG: of course the 737NG, 777 and 747. Orbx, everything airport (at the fence lines) but scenery will not be needed. Other airport developers like FlyTampa, Aerosoft, Flightbeam, LatinVFR, FSDreamTeam, etc will still create airports! Other flightsim developers will continue to create products for Prepar3d and X-Plane. Edited June 12, 20205 yr by SP2472
June 12, 20205 yr IMHO the Real question is how much has MS already harmed Developers? We already have the answer to that. Since the beginning of the MS2020 hysteria program was seeded on our flight sim sites, how many Developers have produced anything really new. The answer is not many. Thanks to the kindness of the Dev's they have attempted to put band aids on all that they can and updated installers but that does not put food on the table for them. Carenado has moved from P3d and have been pushing their pretty graphics/low end systems stuff over at X-Pain. Bert is correct in that it is too early to know the answers to the Op's question but it is not to early to have a little bit of healthy fear. Just ask yourself what if the Dev's that we know and love are dumped just like MS did once before then who is going to provide new toys for the other Sims we would not doubt want to fall back on. They have to eat and so they just may be busy designing a new and exciting version of Vacuum Cleaner 2.0. Sam Prepar3D V5.3/[email protected]/EVGA 3080 TI/1000W PSU/Windows 10/40" 4K Samsung@3840x2160/ASP3D/ASCA/ORBX/ ChasePlane/General Aviation/Honeycomb Alpha+Bravo/MFG Rudder Pedals/
June 13, 20205 yr On 6/12/2020 at 2:28 PM, Bottle said: Sea of Thieves is a Microsoft Xbox/PC game made by a smallish 3rd party UK company (Rare Studios) so in some ways is comparable to FS2020. Granted, it's a completely different genre, but they have 10 million users. 10 million! So yes, a company's potential market exposure should be much larger than currently, all things being equal. You had me at "Sea of Thieves" - that was a good enough description of certain add-on devs...and for the last few years - us simmers have been the drowning men, grappling to try and buy our way on to imaginary life rafts and promised salvation from the drowning seas of underperforming hardware/ software/ graphic slideshows and horrible textures. Come on Asobo - raise the ocean floor and allow us to stand on our feet at Default Settings for a bit - without having to get the credit cards out. That's my challenge to you. Bon jouè! Edited June 13, 20205 yr by Will Fly For Cheese
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