1 hour ago, ChaoticBeauty said:

We have absolutely no price point rumours so far, those are usually decided right before release. NVIDIA are probably waiting for AMD to make the first move, and quite curiously, there has been an exceptionally small amount of leaks regarding AMD products the past year or so. We know nearly nothing about Zen 3, and even less about RDNA 2 outside the 50% performance/Watt improvement and DirectX 12 Ultimate support from the official slides.

Oké thanks time will tell 😎

7 hours ago, March Hare said:

Is that running at 4K? Are graphics settings high with good detail, cloud formations, etc.?

I have a GTX 1070, i7-8700, 16GB DDR4, and 35Mbps broadband. I'm also happy running anything at 1080p for better performance.

I've pre-ordered the sim, and I haven't long built this PC. Obviously it won't run at the standard shown in preview videos (no ray tracing, for one), but it's good to get an impression of how it will appear on my hardware from someone involved in the alpha testing.

Yes that's with 4k at high settings. One setting below ultra. I have trees on medium and lens flare turned off

13 hours ago, devgrp said:

Yes that's with 4k at high settings. One setting below ultra. I have trees on medium and lens flare turned off

That's incredibly promising. I wouldn't even expect to run a standard game at 4K on a 1070 GPU. I mean, I have tried it and managed ultra settings at 4K on a AAA title at a just about bearable frame rate. I can generally run games with ultra settings at 1080p and get a solid frame rate, so this confirms I should get high detail on MSFS 2020 running at 1080, sans ray tracing. Thanks for the info.

As long as there aren't any real benchmarks out (i.e. before the NDA is lifted), it's hard to give any well-founded recommendations. The thing is, at a given price point some games run better on AMD, others on NVidia, and we don't know to which side the new MS Flight Simulator is going to tip the balance. 

Generally AMD has offered more performance per euro, but often the tradeoff was a higher power consumption (which seems to have improved in their latest generation). However, both FSX and XPlane 11 prefer Nvidia by a clear margin, but for the new MS Flight Simulator, this is still an open question.

I recently upgraded my system to a Ryzen 3900x, but I still keep using my  old Nvidia 1050Ti until both the new generation of graphics cards and the new Flight Simulator are out (the latter of which is going to happen a lot earlier than i expected). The 1050Ti is slightly better than the minimum recommendation of a Geforce 770, so I'll be able to run FS on low to medium settings when it's released, and upgrade the graphics card around Christmas.

 

Edited July 23, 20205 yr by pstrub
improved formatting

New info about "NVIDIA Killer" AMD Navi

16GB of VRAM

40-50% faster than GeForce RTX 2080 Ti

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/73965/amd-big-navi-nvidia-killer-flagship-card-has-16gb-of-memory/index.html

2 hours ago, Emerson67 said:

New info about "NVIDIA Killer" AMD Navi

16GB of VRAM

40-50% faster than GeForce RTX 2080 Ti

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/73965/amd-big-navi-nvidia-killer-flagship-card-has-16gb-of-memory/index.html

Wow that would be a stunner! Love that we're finally getting some good competition...

There is a trick with Windows, where I have been able to get an extra 10 FPS with some games, and that is running Windows on a minimum boot.

Explains how to do it here:  https://www.thewindowsclub.com/what-is-clean-boot-state-in-windows

Been using this off and on for years now, with Windows 7, and now 10.

The only thing that wouldn't work I found was Photoshop, because of its licensing doo da.

The new MSFS sim.....will that work with this method?

Dunno, maybe.

You must remember you have changed the state of Windows though, as any new program you install with Windows running as minimum boot - it might not install properly.

Hope this helps some folks! 😊

16 hours ago, pstrub said:

As long as there aren't any real benchmarks out (i.e. before the NDA is lifted), it's hard to give any well-founded recommendations. The thing is, at a given price point some games run better on AMD, others on NVidia, and we don't know to which side the new MS Flight Simulator is going to tip the balance. 

Generally AMD has offered more performance per euro, but often the tradeoff was a higher power consumption (which seems to have improved in their latest generation). However, both FSX and XPlane 11 prefer Nvidia by a clear margin, but for the new MS Flight Simulator, this is still an open question.

I recently upgraded my system to a Ryzen 3900x, but I still keep using my  old Nvidia 1050Ti until both the new generation of graphics cards and the new Flight Simulator are out (the latter of which is going to happen a lot earlier than i expected). The 1050Ti is slightly better than the minimum recommendation of a Geforce 770, so I'll be able to run FS on low to medium settings when it's released, and upgrade the graphics card around Christmas.

 

yea I actually have the same graphic card as you and my CPU is Intel i5 8500 6 Core.

Hopefully I'll be able to run fs2020 on it well, customizing the settings and adapting for better fps. Also, I hope it won't get too low and bad.

Anyway, I don't know when I'm gonna buy another card since i'll have to purchase both the sim and the PMDG 737 when released... and as I live in Brazil, if PMDG does not make an adapted price for us here, it is gonna, maybe, become unaffordable. In fact, everything is relative as of now. I need to try all on and follow the news as they come

Wow, the more i research the more i learn and the cost keeps going up.

I never knew about the power supply, Because i am on a budget, I have been looking at XFX Radeon RX 570 XXX 8GB Graphics Card and the 580 , Then i started to read about the power supply stating that i needed 550w supply, Not knowing what my Lenovo power supply was , I then started to find out, The internet stated it should be 450, But after getting the model number from my machine, I then found out that i have only 225w , So pleased to find that out before plugging in a new graphics card.

I have found a 750w power supply that should do the job, but its adding into the expense, I just need to find out about connectors because there was no 6 or 8 pin plugs in my PC.

I might just be better going for a GeForce GTX 1650 4GB XLR8, Its looks easy to install but reviews say XFX Radeon RX 570 XXX 8GB is far better 

 

I don't use my PC fort much in the way of games, So the cost of the flight sim is adding up, But will be worth it. 

On 7/22/2020 at 6:55 PM, devgrp said:

Yes that's with 4k at high settings. One setting below ultra. I have trees on medium and lens flare turned off

very interesting - how does it (1070) run at 1440p?

all this sounds like I shouldn't be in a rush to buy the 3080Ti

 

1 hour ago, hanhamreds said:

very interesting - how does it (1070) run at 1440p?

all this sounds like I shouldn't be in a rush to buy the 3080Ti

 

An educated guess would suggest very well. Devgrp suggested their only tweak was trees on medium and lens flare disabled. My 1070 Mini (with 8GB VRAM) runs Shadow of the Tomb Raider silky smooth on ultra settings at 1080p, with only anti-aliaising tuned down a bit (with no noticeable difference to me). It runs just fine on 1440p, too, but to me there's no discernible difference between 1080p and 1440p in that game. That was on a Sony Bravia 4K 52 inch TV.

So I'm guessing, if Devgrp ran it at 1080 or 1440p, they could enable lens flare and put trees up to max. I'd also like Devgrp to test 1080 and 1440 and see if they get stable 40FPS at least on max settings.

I'm also interested to know how the volumetric clouds appear on a GTX 1070. That's something that could appear quite different compared to running on a RTX card, because of the ray tracing. Having said that, you can enable ray tracing in Tomb Raider without an RTX with three quality variations. Low quality runs smoothly, highest quality destroys the frame rate to unplayable levels. But, personally, I prefer the look of the dynamic lighting in that game over what I've seen of the ray tracing... Although that might not be true of ray tracing in MSFS vs. dynamic lighting. So I'd really like to see a comparison shot of volumetric clouds on a GTX and RTX.

 

Edited July 29, 20205 yr by March Hare

I thought MSFS wasn't using ray tracing? 

57 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

I thought MSFS wasn't using ray tracing? 

Maybe I've just made a presumption based on the ideal spec, which includes a RTX 2080 (which was designed with ray tracing at the fore). They are bringing it to the Xbox Series X, too, and the big hype with that new console generation is ray tracing, so it would be a good showcase. I wonder why they wouldn't implement ray tracing, if that's the case.

Although, as they aren't using ray tracing to get those lighting effects, clearly they don't need to. Most impressive.

 

Edited July 29, 20205 yr by March Hare

3 hours ago, hanhamreds said:

very interesting - how does it (1070) run at 1440p?

all this sounds like I shouldn't be in a rush to buy the 3080Ti

 

1440p should be good 

53 minutes ago, March Hare said:

Maybe I've just made a presumption based on the ideal spec, which includes a RTX 2080 (which was designed with ray tracing at the fore). They are bringing it to the Xbox Series X, too, and the big hype with that new console generation is ray tracing, so it would be a good showcase. I wonder why they wouldn't implement ray tracing, if that's the case.

Although, as they aren't using ray tracing to get those lighting effects, clearly they don't need to. Most impressive.

 

yep no ray tracing in FS2020