2 minutes ago, fogboundturtle said:

The A320/747 are a joke compare to payware airliners. 

Were people honestly expecting the default commercial aircraft for a simulator designed for maximum accessibility to be comparable to premium 3rd party products designed for professionals and hardcore simmers?

And if so, where did those expectations come from?

2 minutes ago, RobotRock said:

Were people honestly expecting the default commercial aircraft for a simulator designed for maximum accessibility to be comparable to premium 3rd party products designed for professionals and hardcore simmers?

And if so, where did those expectations come from?

This forum 8 months ago it was titled speculation.

Never in the history of flight simulation have the default airliners ever matched up to payware competition. Never.

This is starting to be painful to watch, I'm starting to question even some of the most popular "promoters" who don't even have some of the most basic functions like flaps key-mapped before they make a vid. One of them didn't even know they could change the weather, another didn't know you could raise the landing gear ect... It's all rushed hack jobs for clicks. But that's my opinion.

1 minute ago, Shug said:

Never in the history of flight simulation have the default airliners ever matched up to payware competition. Never.

I guess you can blame hype and marketing but the FMC is the planes are barely functional to not working at all. Pressing FLC would nosedive the plane. there is a new build now that seem to have improved on some of the issue but it still not what I call a working airliners. Like I wouldn't be able to fly this on VATSIM since I don't have all the tools necessary to comply to an ATC's request.

14 minutes ago, fogboundturtle said:

The GA  in MSFS have decent flight dynamic as long as you don't touch the avionics. The A320/747 are a joke compare to payware airliners. 

Pretty harsh assessment and not something I agree with from watching the videos but we'll see on the 18.

2 hours ago, Turpentine said:

I do wonder why Asobo/MS wasted time and resources designing those planes

As Asobo clearly stated last night on the Twitch stream when discussing helicopters, they need to design a couple of type vehicles in order to work out what controls to design, etc. They clearly spent time on the A320, 747 and 737 not to make study level aircraft but to give the average user a tube liner to play with and to work out what such aircraft need in the platform and to inform the SDK development for use by 3PDs to make the study level aircraft. That's been compounded by the fact that the systems aren't complete yet, but I have no reason to think that they won't be eventually.

3 minutes ago, FPStewy said:

One of them didn't even know they could change the weather, another didn't know you could raise the landing gear ect... 

One thought the drop-down menu graphic was a direction indicator...

3 minutes ago, Shug said:

One thought the drop-down menu graphic was a direction indicator...

For the love of puppies MS/Asobo don't make us suffer through the week end with this, we paid premium please unlock and give us premium access.

I understand that they have chosen streams based of the popularity purely for the purpose of free marketing but really some of these streams are ridiculous.

Its annoying having pro-ordered the sim, to watch people who have no interest be gifted keys. While we remain locked out. 

Its the same with any major game release. Twitch and youtube influencers get given access before the people with general interest. I don't agree they should get special treatment based on there popularity. It also makes it harder for someone whos interested in starting youtube or twitch to build a following, because there content ends up being buried by the algorithms because more established content creators for whatever genre get a head start by days or in some cases weeks on there content. 

12 minutes ago, Eriol_Mits said:

I understand that they have chosen streams based of the popularity purely for the purpose of free marketing but really some of these streams are ridiculous.

Its annoying having pro-ordered the sim, to watch people who have no interest be gifted keys. While we remain locked out. 

Its the same with any major game release. Twitch and youtube influencers get given access before the people with general interest. I don't agree they should get special treatment based on there popularity. It also makes it harder for someone whos interested in starting youtube or twitch to build a following, because there content ends up being buried by the algorithms because more established content creators for whatever genre get a head start by days or in some cases weeks on there content. 

World now days, same goes for Instagram influencers that will be given free products to promote. 

Just saw someone mocking it non stop which was disturbing, honestly the media preview was enough but to release the full Premium Deluxe to this wide of an audience is just not right.

Anyway it's being over saturated with influencers for channel clicks which is making it look bad. Oh well I'm taking a break from it all until release.

15 hours ago, FPStewy said:

This is starting to be painful to watch, I'm starting to question even some of the most popular "promoters" who don't even have some of the most basic functions like flaps key-mapped before they make a vid. One of them didn't even know they could change the weather, another didn't know you could raise the landing gear ect... It's all rushed hack jobs for clicks. But that's my opinion.

Yup. But it all crashes on Tuesday.

I'm sick of the same YouTube ads every single video.

They will never make me pay 12 bucks a month to remove them.

3 hours ago, Gabe777 said:

Yup. But it all crashes on Tuesday.

I'm sick of the same YouTube ads every single video.

They will never make me pay 12 bucks a month to remove them.

Or use a free ad blocker like i do. It works great! Best download ever. 

On 8/14/2020 at 10:59 PM, fogboundturtle said:

The GA  in MSFS have decent flight dynamic as long as you don't touch the avionics.

Not being a tester, I wonder how exactly do the avionics affect the flight dynamics?

 

On 8/14/2020 at 11:12 PM, fogboundturtle said:

Like I wouldn't be able to fly this on VATSIM since I don't have all the tools necessary to comply to an ATC's request.

What tools are you talking about? If you can't comply with an ATC request you might want to improve your flying skills. From everything I've seen I don't believe the flight model is that broken that you can't comply with whatever request ATC could possibly have.