1 minute ago, mtr75 said:

Keep posting strawmen, I'll keep posting pictures.

You: "In a real 152 you can basically put your feet on the floor after lift-off"

Everyone: "no you can't"

You: posts pictures

1 minute ago, bonchie said:

You: "In a real 152 you can basically put your feet on the floor after lift-off"

Everyone: "no you can't"

You: posts pictures

Ahem:

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P-factor presents its own challenges

P-factor, a turning tendency the airplane develops when at full power or in a glide, is mostly (but not entirely) the result of the center of thrust being shifted from the center of the propeller toward the blade with the greater angle of attack that is producing the most lift. That blade is pulling the nose off center. So, in a full-power climb the aircraft wants to turn left and in a glide it wants to turn right. Uncorrected, in a climb the ball will slide right (sometimes quite a bit) and in a glide the ball will slide left. In both cases, the bigger the engine and propeller in relation to the size of the airplane, the more noticeable the effect. In a Cessna 152, the effects are there, but minor.

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2018/february/flight-training-magazine/the-common-turn

Are you going to tell us that AOPA is wrong? Please tell us that you know something that AOPA doesn't, because I'd really like to hear it. Maybe you can write an article for them.

4 hours ago, bonchie said:

...No one is "pushing the throttle in" after lift-off (it's already full power at that point), nor would doing so make you turn 60 degrees immediately as you asserted in the sim....

Perhaps I interpreted this wrongly, but what if the Cessna was in cruise and the the pilot firewalled the throttle - would the real 110 bhp lump cause the real plane to instantly turn 60 degrees to the left?

Once you're airborne then doesn't the plane want to weathercock into wind so surely one wouldn't necessarily need rudder depending upon the amount of crosswind component, just apply a bit of aileron to counteract?

If the late Bob Hoover were alive then perhaps he'd win the p1$$ing contest, guys?

Anyway as an armchair pilot I guess I don't know much, just curious...

6 minutes ago, HighBypass said:

Once you're airborne then doesn't the plane want to weathercock into wind so surely one wouldn't necessarily need rudder depending upon the amount of crosswind component, just apply a bit of aileron to counteract?

You want a real answer? If you are climbing weathercocked into the wind with no rudder correction and/or trying to fight the p-factor with just ailerons (very common among low time pilots), you are uncoordinated and that's especially dangerous during the slower climb phase. If you get to cruise and want to forget the rudder, it's less of a big deal then.

 

Edited August 19, 20205 yr by bonchie

7 hours ago, mtr75 said:

- ATC doesn’t make any sound. It talks in the dialog box, no sound out of the speakers.

Go into audio settings and set TTS from Azure to Windows (OFFLINE). Azure uses their online servers, which overloaded right now I assume.

Edited August 19, 20205 yr by Tuskin38

7 hours ago, Sabretooth78 said:

Also, is it just me, or is there a complete lack of navigational hazards, particularly radio towers?  There are a multitude of them along the Lake Erie shoreline south of Buffalo and I don't recall seeing one. 

Yeah, it's odd. The VFR map does show obstacles around KSEA, but I've yet to see any pop up anywhere else.

7 hours ago, mtr75 said:

All the boats around St. Maarten and Anguilla are underwater. Same for piers, docks, etc.

Bing imagery taken after Irma.

10 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

Go into audio settings and set TTS from Azure to Windows (OFFLINE). Azure uses their online servers, which overloaded right now I assume.

Thanks for this! Will give it a try.

Just to note the voice quality is worse than azure, though I found there's a wider range of voices.

1 minute ago, airlinejets said:

Bing imagery taken after Irma.

Right?

Today I figured out how to ignore someone on the forums.

With the plague and all I guess temperatures are running a little hot, but good gravy; some people.

1 hour ago, HighBypass said:

If the late Bob Hoover were alive

A simmer would tell him he didn't know what he was talking about ...

1 hour ago, bonchie said:

If you are climbing weathercocked into the wind ..

Thank you for the real answer. I'm now wondering why on so many takeoffs of real aeroplanes including airliners do we see them weathercock on the initial climb?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CBHHBi1aTw

Extreme footage I know, but it appears that the planes are being allowed to point into the wind so that they keep flying the runway heading i.e weathercocking to some degree.

I do understand about coordinated turns though. Not trying to argue, just debate, cheers.

Don’t confuse certain airliners that don’t allow slips to with most planes. 

I instruct students in the 152 at a field with a 12 m wide runway, so I don't know much.

If you slam the throttle forward with no right rudder you will very quickly end up on the grass. Big problem when the grass is wet to prevent the embarrassment of getting bogged or worse.

This is further amplified when doing touch and goes with newer students. You are forever telling them to smoothly advance the throttle.

They do two things - slam it to the firewall and don't get the rudder going. So as the instructor I am forever feeding right rudder to keep on the pavement until they get used to it.

PM me if you want to verify my credentials.

Hope this contributes to the debate.

Edited August 19, 20205 yr by DavidP