https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/upcoming-forum-feedback-changes/229320/1

 

We’ve been heard! They are indeed working on weather. Looks like we’ll get a feedback snapshot update soon.

17 minutes ago, FlyingInACessna said:

We’ve been heard! They are indeed working on weather. Looks like we’ll get a feedback snapshot update soon.

Who would've guessed it? Oh, wait. Quite a few of us. <grin>

10 hours ago, Nyxx said:

How old is P3D? Even v5 was a joke on release, it took 2 HF to get it sorted out and EA will not be good till 5.1....so for a 2 week old flight sim, it's not bad!^^

7 hours ago, CarlosF said:

Calm down people, take a break, grab a beer.

Can someone tell me what sim has ever been released with a "bug or two"??? NONE, that I can remember. 

The sim hasn't even been out for a week and here we are, throwing stones at Asobo/MS. give them time to iron things out.

You ultra fans are disingenuous.
Not only does MSFS contain a long list of bugs, there are fundemental / important items that are broken. To name but a few:

• Installation issues
• CTD issues
• Performance issues with glass panels
• Server bandwidth issues regarding scenery
• Live weather not functioning in North America
• Flight model problems
• Peripherals setup and sensitivity problems
• Autopilot issues...

A lot of these were idenitified months ago in what was probably the largest alpha program for a simulator ever.

Look, MSFS has plenty of potential. Every once in a while you can have a 'wow moment' where enough things work to give an impressive-looking flight. However, at the very least, MSFS should have been labelled as an early access product.

While I agree that there are some posters who get riled by their own misunderstandings or unreasonable demands, there are plenty of others who have significant or even show-stopping problems. Let those people vent, it's cathartic.

Edited August 28, 20205 yr by F737NG

Just now, Agrajag said:

Who would've guessed it? Oh, wait. Quite a few of us. <grin>

Hey, we all guessed it. Just wanted acknowledgement. That was the whole point. 🙂

4 minutes ago, FlyingInACessna said:

Hey, we all guessed it. Just wanted acknowledgement. That was the whole point. 🙂

My reply was not aimed at you, but instead at a NUMBER of people who were suggesting that Asobo clearly wasn't hearing these reports. It's obvious to many of us that the issue here is simply a case of priorities of scale and that our pet concerns, like weather and such are far below that of even being able to get into the product in the first place. It was also nonsense to suggest Asobo wasn't aware of these issues. I don't care how big the alpha was or how many people reported X bug. If the product still has fundamental problems just getting launched without trouble, everything else takes a back seat -- everything else.

2 minutes ago, F737NG said:

• Installation issues
• CTD issues
• Performance issues with glass panels
• Server bandwidth issues regarding scenery
• Live weather not functioning in North America
• Flight model problems
• Peripherals setup and sensitivity problems
• Autopilot issues...

- Installation issues don't matter now that we've mostly all successfully installed it, but they're being fixed within the week...

- What CTD issues are you having? I had one or two right when I got the sim, but I ended up attributing those to the fact that I overdid my OC on my GPU a day or two before

- Performance issues with glass panels have already been fixed with a super easy copy-paste tweak. Sure, Asobo should make that setting available in the base sim, but it's not much of an issue anymore.

- Server bandwidth issues... when have you found this to be happening? I haven't had any issues with bandwidth or slow scenery downloads.

- Live weather is one of the two issues I completely agree on. Pretty frustrating.

- Flight model problems... what sorts of problems? Of course anything could use a bit of tweaking, but it's miles ahead of FSX/P3D's flight model. If you're talking about the fidelity and handling of default airplanes, I wouldn't expect much - they're still better than default FSX / P3D planes. and third parties will come in and greatly improve this area.

- Don't have any experience with peripherals, but the sensitivity problems aren't really a problem. This sim is even less sensitive than X-Plane 11. It's easy to adjust sensitivity to your liking, but the closer you are to a linear graph, the more realistic it is...

- This is the other one I'll give you. Autopilots are pretty messed up in many airplanes. But fixes are coming, and they're even working on completing aircraft systems that are incomplete & making sure VNAV works properly in the airliners, which is miles ahead of what we ever had in FSX for default aircraft.

 

I think it's way extreme to say that any of this stuff makes the sim unflyable and frustrating. I would agree with an Early Access label, but I think you're discrediting the percentage of times where you can really experience that "wow" factor. Happens most flights for me, despite the issues. And once these basic issues are fixed, there's really no going back - it's going to be thoroughly incredible.

 

 

Unflyable ?   Here let me flex real quick , yes I have no life but loving every min. of it and when PMDG finishes porting over all their planes, Oh boy oh boy. 

btw did anyone know there is a really nice Airport named Fouth of February International Airport ?

 

 

 

 

Edited August 28, 20205 yr by SirDan

Do we have a CTD issues that I wasn't aware of? I mean since day 1, I only had one CTD and that was because of a known issue in regards to the controller if you try to plug it in while the sim is running, it will crash. Comparing to P3Dv5 which everytime I fly with it, I have to pray from deep of my heart that it won't crash and give me that hung error thingy, MSFS has been very stable on my system. I only had that issue with the fps airliner which is already solved and the autopilot thingy. 

30 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

Do we have a CTD issues that I wasn't aware of? I mean since day 1, I only had one CTD and that was because of a known issue in regards to the controller if you try to plug it in while the sim is running, it will crash. Comparing to P3Dv5 which everytime I fly with it, I have to pray from deep of my heart that it won't crash and give me that hung error thingy, MSFS has been very stable on my system. I only had that issue with the fps airliner which is already solved and the autopilot thingy. 

Same for me, and my issue was related to over-over clocking my GPU memory so not even sim related. The one other time this happened was because I unplugged a keyboard, but that’s been fixed in the patch.

6 hours ago, Agrajag said:

 If the product still has fundamental problems just getting launched without trouble, everything else takes a back seat -- everything else.

Fundamental problems? Gimme a break. MSFS 2020 has plenty of bugs, and it's not even out 2 weeks, but there are literally hundreds of thousands of people playing the game every day. I'd say what we're seeing here are the normal teething problems of a triple A game release. 

Just wait a year, in the meantime fly X-Plane or P3D. Boom, problem solved. 

5 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

Fundamental problems? Gimme a break.

While many people may be playing the game (and I for one am entirely enjoying it even with its current quirks), if you take the time to look at the official forums, Twitter and places other than AVSIM, you'll see that LARGE numbers of people are still posting that they are not able to reach the main menu of the game. They can't get the install to finish. They can't get past the Press Any Key screen. They can't get past the blue bar. The game crashes for others along any of those paths. That's a fundamental problem for any developer. While AVSIM and similar forums are great, they are also generally populated by people beyond first-time users. As such, we're likely to not get the most accurate view of Asobo's perspective. It's really that simple. Try explaining to the people that can't even install the product they paid for that you're going to put them off while you go fix Live Weather. They'd be rather upset, and rightly so.

Edited August 29, 20205 yr by Agrajag

It's always clever after the fact. We all knew that there were issues that cropped up during alpha testing, & we all said that Microsoft is releasing MSFS far too early, yet we all rushed to buy it, instead of waiting a week or so, to see what first adopters had to say.. 

Mea culpa

CTD SOLVED!!!😁😁

The short answer is 16GB RAM was not enough for the Ultimate graphics settings I had set @1440P resolution.  Going up to 32GB immediately solved the problem.

How I got there is a l-o-n-g story and I won't bore you with all the details.  So if you're getting CTD waiting for a flight to load and the crash is often accompanied by a popup that says:

       "The instruction at 0x0000... referenced memory at 0x0000...  The memory could not be read."

or you get a similar message that says: "The memory could not be written."  then your graphics settings are set too high for the installed RAM.

Gotta admit this is the first game/simulator I've ever had crash because of not enough RAM.  Usually the game just gets bog slow.  I only tried the extra RAM because while searching for a solution I read a forum comment that the sim can sometimes use more than 16GB @4K resolution and luckily I had an extra 16GB lying around.  Since 1440P is still demanding and considering my settings I decided to give it a try.  An alternative might be to just turn down the eye candy settings a bit, but TBH it didn't occur to me at the time.

Anyway, thank God, Buddha, or Zenu the sim is working fine now.  I still believe it was released waaaaaay too early to suffer bugs like this.  Oh well, now that I can fly anywhere I LOVE IT as it is definitely next gen gorgeous!!!!

Hope this helps someone and... Cheers from Thailand everybody! 😉

 

 

 

No CTD's here but one issue (well two I suppose) is that it really demands a clean boot of your PC to run decently (especially if you've been using your XB pad in another game) and a hard reboot after using if you want to do something else (I tried XP11 couple of times after running FS beforehand and it freaked out on me).

Yeah CTD issues are really a PITA to sort out.  I often times find it comes down to memory problems (Either memory errors) or Bad Drivers.  Glad you got it sorted out.  Did you add ram or did you just replace it all?  If adding memory fixed it you may have had a bad stick but since not all the memory now is not being utilized it ay be avoiding the problematic area.  Manny moons ago I had this issue where it as only in one game and it was because it maxed out my memory and it would be writing to a bad spot on my memory.  Ran Memtest and identified the bad stick and got a replacement unit for it.