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Realistic Physics?

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Game is amazing, but I still have some questions about the physics, and YES crashing / damage was enabled when I pulled this off...

 

 

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There's currently no Damage Model in Microsoft Flight Simulator. Trying stunts like this will of course result in Odd Outcomes. I think it's better if we focus on Normal Flying for now, and leave the more risky business to another sim such as IL2 with the amazing Damage Model, or maybe someday Asobo will implement in MFS.

Alexis Mefano

...  Ok? Of all arguments about physics you're using a video of you purposely flying an aircraft in a completely unrealistic cartoon like way and scenario with no proof of your settings as a "gotcha" moment about the sims integrity as a simulator? 

What is this even? 

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Well I could have gone into the menu and showed the crash damage was enabled, but would that do much good since videos can be edited anyhow?

It was definitely enabled, I was just surprised it didn't crash me. It was not my intent to fly it in a cartoon way, I recorded that landed several times, and thought that was interesting, nothing else. 

I didn't say anything about integrity of sim, just about SOME of the physics. Actually, this plane flies ok some of the time.

 

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Any landing you can walk away from....

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Its a tough landing, try it. There is a hump on the top of the mountain and a very short sloped distance to stop the plane.

 

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11 minutes ago, snglecoil said:

Any landing you can walk away from....

You can ski away from that one. 🤣

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Well, here is the skiing video, didn't go so well...

 

 

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Well real aircraft gear would be damage and fuselage probably brake in half. But I tell I have studied a lot of real life accident involving different GA aircraft in and  some  people survived which is not short of amazing!

 

This one of high profile plane crashes

 

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Yes, the ground handling and modeling is simplified rigid body physics. It's not a competitor to DCS or IL2 which model the gear assembly and and servo-piston forces in much more detail.

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i fly with disable crashes, i like to see how i landed even upside down, because the crashes still work,

dont understand enable crashes on, because you dont see anything, i dont like the black screen.

A real aircraft would be broken if it bounced like that! In fact it probably wouldn't bounce like that as the structure would be crushed. Strange that you did not get the black screen (as per your second video - ample opportunity to do a touch and go as far as I could tell lol!). No problem with a short landing on an upslope - that's why Courchevel and many airstrips in Papua New Guinea exist in the real world.

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1 minute ago, HighBypass said:

No problem with a short landing on an upslope - that's why Courchevel and many airstrips in Papua New Guinea exist in the real world.

It's not as smoothly sloped as it looks, it goes up/down/up/down in elevation, that's why it's hard to land. Just when you think your about to touch down, ground drops deeper, it's a bit rugged there.

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2 hours ago, styckx said:

...  Ok? Of all arguments about physics you're using a video of you purposely flying an aircraft in a completely unrealistic cartoon like way and scenario with no proof of your settings as a "gotcha" moment about the sims integrity as a simulator? 

What is this even? 

No, this is a legitimate issue. In flight training or any realistic flight sim, even a "home version, you want to know when you mess up.

If I land in a crosswind and don't control things well enough so the upwind wing lifts and the downwind wing scrapes the runway, I want to know about it so I can do better next time. If I land hard enough to break the landing gear, I want to know about it so I can do better next time. Heck, I'd like to recreate a water ditching I survived in real life in an Otter, but home flight sims don't let you recreate that, or the "Miracle on the Hudson" to see if you could do as well as Scully.

Historically, flight sim developers shy away from the kind of damage modeling you see in combat sims because they don't want people recreating grisly real-life scenarios. But short of total destruction, I'd like to see the kind of damage modeling that will give me feedback on how I'm doing if I screw up.

 

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Try flying the damn plane from inside the bloody cockpit... 😩

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