7 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

That seems a bit exaggerated ... but I'll leave you to it.

The bottom line here, is that you are satisfied with P3's visual output...and for you, of course, that is simply great! 🙂

I have not bothered reading this whole thread, but just in case it i snot mentioned earlier, how many trees you see in the distance are mainly controlled by the tree setting not the LOD.

This whole thread is useless unless people start posting screenshots from specific locations that others can replicate.

All these screenshots were taking at default camera view (50) with clear skies and an LOD setting of 100 at noon.

This is Chicago, starting off directly over O'hare. Note that nothing in downtown is visible.

Then I placed the camera directly over the sears tower like so;

View north from the top of sears

Same location looking due west

Just to make sure this isn't some building loading issue, I returned to O'hare. Now some buildings along the shore are visible;

 

Then I moved the camera up until just before the photogrammetry texture swaps to satellite. Just try looking down and moving the camera up, you'll know what I mean when you see it in-game.

From this height looking north

And west

 

LOD for sure seems worse. Not sure if textures are any blurrier but they don't seem to be.

Edited September 29, 20205 yr by L3m0n

7 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

I have not bothered reading this whole thread, but just in case it i snot mentioned earlier, how many trees you see in the distance are mainly controlled by the tree setting not the LOD.

Uh...not truly accurate to say Glen, ...same setting(s), since RTM....with the same also setting of Trees (HIGH/Ultra, whatever it is called) ,  LOD's...sliders always set to 200, in sim...a loss of 75 percent visual A.I. and forestry over 2 patch attempts.

Edited September 29, 20205 yr by Sesquashtoo

4 minutes ago, L3m0n said:

This whole thread is useless unless people start posting screenshots from specific location that others can replicate.

All these screenshots were taking at default camera view (50) with clear skies and an LOD setting of 100

This is chicago, starting off directly over O'hare. Note that nothing in downtown is visible.

https://i.imgur.com/m7Ky2yO.png

Then I placed the camera directly over the sears tower like so;

https://i.imgur.com/yRKes3M.png

View north from the top of sears

https://i.imgur.com/Fvj3oOZ.png

Same location looking due west

https://i.imgur.com/70MNhLB.png

Just to make sure this isn't some building loading issue, I returned to O'hare. Now some buildings along the shore are visible;

https://i.imgur.com/Uq4h2Ov.png

 

Then I moved the camera up until just before the photogrammetry texture swaps to satellite. Just try looking down and moving the camera up, you'll know what I mean when you see it in-game.

https://i.imgur.com/zhbgIRW.png

From this height looking north

https://i.imgur.com/7sZm7f3.png

And west

https://i.imgur.com/mzyd3FU.png

 

LOD for sure seems worse. Not sure if textures are any blurrier but they don't seem to be.

Not useless at all...on MY SYTEM, on my same settings...a 75 percent loss of art assets and forestry, from RTM, to P3.  Nothing useless about that...as posted by myself, the O.P...at....all! Sorry to read that you also noticed LOD reduction issues.

Edited September 29, 20205 yr by Sesquashtoo

1 minute ago, Sesquashtoo said:

Not useless at all...on MY SYTEM, on my same settings...a 75 percent loss of art assets and forestry, from RTM, to P3.  Nothing useless about that...as posted by myself, the O.P...at....all!

Read what I posted before..... REPLYING.... in the most annoying way possible.

This thread is just people talking over each other unless some can be bothered to try taking screenshots in the same location. Only then will we know if some people really havent seen a texture/lod decrease.

40 minutes ago, KBUR said:

flightsim hamster

I have to borrow this picture for my workplace, hope you don't mind.

Thank you all, for letting me vent,  and I wish all readers, the best experience they can know!   If you can still enjoy post 3P, then...absolutely, by all means! Cheers, will revisit this sim, in 6 months to a full year.  I hope I can see some good value down the road, in the major coin I dropped,...and to what I expect/hope for/wish this sim to look like, once more...the  Test Period shots leaked to the wild...and what the world looked like on RTM day. 

And here I am...just wanting  it to just work.

It was perfect upto yesterday, than as if by magic it will not go past the press any key point.

I have even re installed. 

Tomorrow, as last resort, I am going re install my windows from a backup.

Please give me my money back...i will be happy even with fsx.

Qas 

7 minutes ago, L3m0n said:

Read what I posted before..... REPLYING.... in the most annoying way possible.

This thread is just people talking over each other unless some can be bothered to try taking screenshots in the same location. Only then will we know if some people really havent seen a texture/lod decrease.

I did...but camera postures, are not the same as view-point out of the cockpit.  My post was as in the cockpit.  Also, I don't think that the actual location of my shot is the litmus test, L3M...for other's who are most familiar with their own personal 'haunts' also notice P2 (A) to P3 (B) LOD degradation in their P.O.I. flights  Most annoying?  Sorry for you to personally feel that way.  I meant no slight or sarcasm. Cheers.

Edited September 29, 20205 yr by Sesquashtoo

3 hours ago, Sesquashtoo said:

 

The sim, is now merely an RTM (to date) BAIT AND SWITCH.

The (word NOT allowed) Dev's have SCALPED the LOD radius again, it seems by again in this 3rd patch--->HALF AS MUCH more than what was scalped in the 2nd patch!  I am so disgusted with this sim....

Since RTM visuals...I have 25 percent of the content to the screen as seen if the plane is the epicenter.  Look at this shot...with both LOD's at 200...trees and forestry doesn't even form 2-5 stinking miles from my aircraft...with the world beyond five miles absolutely BARREN...except for ground textures.  At RTM, this area...had forestry and farm buildings practically to the horizon!   This...is simply and utterly, DISGUSTING!!!!   

I paid $183 (CDN) dollars, to have the Dev's with each patch/MSFS LOBOTOMY....ever increasingly GUT, the visuals of this flight sim world?!?!?   For what...in the name of FPS 'performance'?  I'm done...as of this moment, I am just writing off my purchase as another Microsoft  fiasco.   I never signed up for the Dev's to keep GUTTING the program visuals with each patch and worst YET....a forced patch....

Done...and I'm truly done with ANYTHING that has, or is produced under the Microsoft Flight Sim Banner.  I'm sorry....but they (ABSOBO/Microsoft) should have CLEARLY made it stated, that they will alter the program visuals and feature list, at any time post RTM.  They should have HAD this disclaimer...

$183.00 CDN...now not WORTH the cost for the latest visuals with the sim at Ultra...

Yes...I'm venting...and will only do it once...but as for MSFS, now...so gutted with the last two patches...FORCED patches...I have lost total interest in this flight simulator...and the money?   Paid out to finally have learned my lesson with anything tagged Microsoft!   Expensive lesson...

the only thing I notice in the shot is the level of trees seems lower than if they were on high or ultra.  Otherwise I would say this view looks pretty fantastic to me.

3 minutes ago, Isaiah53six said:

the only thing I notice in the shot is the level of trees seems lower than if they were on high or ultra.  Otherwise I would say this view looks pretty fantastic to me.

This screen grab has the trees at the highest (in sim setting for such). Also, both LOD sliders are at maximum of 200 when taken. Isaiah, if the above screen grab does look pretty fantastic to you...then you are good to go!  Enjoy MSFS P3! Cheers!

Edited September 29, 20205 yr by Sesquashtoo

1 hour ago, Captain Z said:

I fired up MSFS and downloaded the patch as soon as I got home. Started in O'hare (been in and out of there a lot in sim) with a cub, took off and flew low level towards downtown Chicago.

The ground was literally popping in ahead of me (200 LOD setting), and disappearing behind me at the same distance. After reaching the waterfront, I turned around and went back to the airport.

It looks really bad, now. Even if you fly airliners exclusively, This will certainly be noticed on approaches, and sully the experience.

chicago has had bad pop in for me since day one. I don't see any changes, for good or bad. 

9 minutes ago, rwy12 said:

And here I am...just wanting  it to just work.

It was perfect upto yesterday, than as if by magic it will not go past the press any key point.

I have even re installed. 

Tomorrow, as last resort, I am going re install my windows from a backup.

Please give me my money back...i will be happy even with fsx.

Qas 

No doubt you will get it to install...perhaps just some minor blip. 🙂

3 hours ago, Sesquashtoo said:

 

The sim, is now merely an RTM (to date) BAIT AND SWITCH.

I'm with you, they just broke the Longitude a plane that wasn't on the list to get touched.  The incompetence is so random plus your forced to update which kills the option of holding off until they get it right.  As I said in another thread I'm with PMDG on this one...

Edited September 30, 20205 yr by Dillon