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4 minutes ago, SAS443 said:

I have to pinch myself that you are comparing this platform

Yeah, it's a text book straw man fallacy the way people attack the graphics of MSFS around here.  There is no way it makes sense to spend $500-$1000 on TE/Regions etc to enhance a few thousand square miles in P3Dv5 when MSFS is as far as long as it is.

 

6 hours ago, BiologicalNanobot said:

Thank you to everyone. I started with getting the FSLabs A320

This would be my advice.  Buy this plane, spend the next 3 months mastering it, learning approaches, VATSIM, etc.  Go down your list, PMDG 737/777/747, Maddog, Aerosoft 330, A2A, QW787, Majestic Dash-8.  Spend the next 9-12 months learning those planes.  Once you have all those down by this time next year MSFS should have some of the big boy planes and you can enjoy the scenery!

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On 10/4/2020 at 9:04 PM, GSalden said:

Nice vids.
Is it me or does P3D with  N E look more real than the MSFS lighting at a higher altitude ( 4000 ft + ) ?

It is just you. At 25.000ft+ perhaps, but at 0ft-12.000ft MSFS blows P3D out of the water in pretty much every aspect, including night lightning.

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1 minute ago, GCBraun said:

It is just you. At 25.000ft+ perhaps, but at 0ft-12.000ft MSFS blows P3D out of the water in pretty much every aspect, including night lightning.

Regarding beauty perhaps, but for me it is about realism. At low altitude MSFS looks better but when going higher it looks overdone and then I like the N E lighting better.

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13 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

Lets just say LM are well aware of AO and what is needed in P3D

That is very encouraging they are aware of AO since it's been implemented in various games since 2007. 🙄 

Edit: I very much welcome any graphical update for P3D and will continue to purchase it since I have spent so much money on the platform and still provides unbeatable airliner experience and addon availablility in general

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15 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

But I agree 100% that "out of the box" MSFS provides much better default scenery than P3D ...

MSFS weakest point. If you rip out the scenery (for example by loosing internet connection or MS switches their streams off) there is virtually nothing left where its ahead of competing products. 


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17 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

P3D's Trees and Buildings don't blend well with the underlying terrain be it LC or PR ... that's where AO (Ambient Occlusion) comes in and why MSFS blends well (aka less cartoonish for trees and building blending).  Lets just say LM are well aware of AO and what is needed in P3D 😉

I DO Like this passage! Let´s hope they put it in a sprint to work on it....or maybe it is already done.... Who knows. 😉


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I like being able to save and resume a flight in p3d.  Makes doing segments and longer flights better with work and other duties!

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1 hour ago, mpo910 said:

I DO Like this passage! Let´s hope they put it in a sprint to work on it....or maybe it is already done.... Who knows. 😉

Maybe this is something that will be included in v5.1?

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5 hours ago, GSalden said:

Regarding beauty perhaps, but for me it is about realism. At low altitude MSFS looks better but when going higher it looks overdone and then I like the N E lighting better.

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These shots are not doing P3D any favours. 

In my eyes LM has *a lot* of work to do to offer a comparable experience when it comes to night flying. 

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1 hour ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

Enjoy the 4GB memory limit that WASM has in MSFS (who needs more than 4GB anyway) Circa 1998?  Doooh!   🙂

Cheers, Rob.

Yeah it's so much more fun watching the VRAM counter in V5. 

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23 minutes ago, Chapstick said:

Yeah it's so much more fun watching the VRAM counter in V5. 

I haven't checked my VRAM since around early May.

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v4.5HF2 here, so I never have to check my VRAM :wink:

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I dialed my setting once, accordingly to my hardware. Never looked on the VRAM usage again.

But there are of course some people that are challenged intellectually to stay inside the possibilities of their hardware.

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My vram in p3d v5, never goes above 3-4 gig; wish I could get it higher!


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There are a couple of terribly optimized addons like all the LatinVFR sceneries and the TFDI 717. Everything else works just fine and I don't even get close to my VRAM maximum.

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