the repaints as awesome as they are, they are wrecking the sim...

started having CTD's A320 complete shut down mid flight, on cold and dark will not do anything etc etc and i only installed a handful 28 to be exact 6 a320, 3 747's, 3 787's and rest Cessna and one cj4...

restarted sim, restarted PC tried all started crashing on flight plan window, i was ready to reinstall the entire game and w10, well just before i deleted all the liveries.. and guess what no more crashes, no more shut down mid flight on a320 cockpit works like it should... worked like a charm !!!!

in order to still have other then asobo a320 i replaced the few texture files main dir of the default a320 and used that. So yeah there is something very wrong with these repaints, i look at this layout.json file and a lot of repaint they have value "1" for size where this is obviously wrong.. now if it matters or not idk, but after i delete all the repaint and sim (most importantly) a320 runs descent there is a problem with these repaint !!!!

Edited October 13, 20205 yr by AndyCYXU

For the record, I use no mods/liveries because if something like a ctd happens on the less than two month old sim, I want to get to root cause fast.

When Asobo, in their twitch Developer q/a stated that some of the liveries were quite good, I thought to myself that maybe they are safe to use.  I still didn’t use any, but felt pretty good that they were safe.

This is a good find if in fact this is a root cause for ctd, since they seem to be pretty widely used.

Yeah.. this also comes back to the possibility of using these aircraft as AI when generic models is sett to OFF,  not quite the same bug as the black screen avionics but related to it.

If you don't have "use generic models for AI" and the other generic one set to ON and you use a badly set-up repaint, or go into multiplayer and someone i using a repaint that is also tagged for AI..  you will probably CTD.

It is also possible, even if you do have generic models set to ON  that if they changed anything in the config files it can cause a CTD.

At this stage, using repaints is a bit of an issue, because the various SDK's etc are not yet fully implemented and theres some kickback into the main routines as a result of it.

By all means use repaints, there are some really good ones out there, but if you suddenly start getting an occaisional CTD or similar, try removing the repaint first 🙂

P.S  theres some airports and scenery things out there as well that wil CTD you depending on how they have used the SDK...   As far as I am aware, all the big companies are pretty stable, but a lot of the people throwing things out there have not been as scrupulous as they might have been with their offerings 🙂

Graham

 

22 minutes ago, Moria15 said:

Yeah.. this also comes back to the possibility of using these aircraft as AI when generic models is sett to OFF,  not quite the same bug as the black screen avionics but related to it.

If you don't have "use generic models for AI" and the other generic one set to ON and you use a badly set-up repaint, or go into multiplayer and someone i using a repaint that is also tagged for AI..  you will probably CTD.

It is also possible, even if you do have generic models set to ON  that if they changed anything in the config files it can cause a CTD.

At this stage, using repaints is a bit of an issue, because the various SDK's etc are not yet fully implemented and theres some kickback into the main routines as a result of it.

By all means use repaints, there are some really good ones out there, but if you suddenly start getting an occaisional CTD or similar, try removing the repaint first 🙂

P.S  theres some airports and scenery things out there as well that wil CTD you depending on how they have used the SDK...   As far as I am aware, all the big companies are pretty stable, but a lot of the people throwing things out there have not been as scrupulous as they might have been with their offerings 🙂

Graham

 

I use the multi pack liveries for all default AI airliners with generic models set to "on" and I have not experience any CTD yet, so you mean it is safest to set generic models to "off" to avoid CTD if I use multiplayer? I have multiplayer turn off right now.

22 minutes ago, Ixoye said:

I use the multi pack liveries for all default AI airliners with generic models set to "on" and I have not experience any CTD yet, so you mean it is safest to set generic models to "off" to avoid CTD if I use multiplayer? I have multiplayer turn off right now.

If you have multiplayer turned off you should be fine,  but no Generic models should be set to ON in both cases anyway to avoid the Avionics black screen bug,  seperately fom the repaint issues.

Graham

I've mentioned this a while back on the Facebook groups. I've never had a ctd until installed a few tbm liveries. I have no mods and the liveries were the only change I made. As soon as I deleted them, no more crash 

Had a similar experience just yesterday.  I my case it appears it was a conflict between liveries and mods.  Here is the topic from yesterday where that was profiled:
https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/587007-bonanza-g36-no-oil-pressure/?tab=comments#comment-4376291

Interesting, I had my first ever CTD yesterday and I was flying the A320 both with the flybywire mod and an American Airlines livery.  Only the second time I’ve tried flying with an addon livery.  I’ll try deleting the liveries beautiful as they are.

I think that if you do NOT use the addon liveries as AI, you will be fine. I have all my A320 liveries to user only, no AI, and I have no CTDs.

Lee

If liveries are making MSFS crash, I consider that a bug that should be submited to Asobo.

For other MODs it's normal, but the sim should be able to perform some checks on liveries to see if they are safe, it's just some textures.

4 hours ago, AndyCYXU said:

the repaints as awesome as they are, they are wrecking the sim

No, they don't. Have used plenty of repaint packs. No problems. Problem an issue on your end. 

16 minutes ago, cercata said:

For other MODs it's normal, but the sim should be able to perform some checks on liveries to see if they are safe, it's just some textures.

I have not looked at MFS textures yet with an editor.  If the textures are anything like those in FSX and P3D there may be textures that include both cockpit and external aspects.  If you also use an avionics mod or even a performance mod, depending on what all it mods, there could be conflicts between the two (or three).  I clearly had that occur yesterday and I described it the link I supplied in my earlier post in this topic.

Edited October 13, 20205 yr by fppilot

I’m a bit confused.  If I install a livery pack does the sim automatically take those liveries and use them for AI as well?

14 minutes ago, regis9 said:

I’m a bit confused.  If I install a livery pack does the sim automatically take those liveries and use them for AI as well?

Yes, unfortunately. Check the aircraft.cfg files in each repaint folder for the ones that are ai. Disable them. I cherry pick repaints and only have a few in at any time.

Lee

Edited October 13, 20205 yr by Midnight Music

4 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

No, they don't. Have used plenty of repaint packs. No problems. Problem an issue on your end. 

Unfortunately I am not the only one to have problems and as soon as i removed them sim worked fine and most importantly the A320 worked fine and i do not use any other mods and/or add-ons I only use "used" repaints.