add on scenery CTD bug introduced with prepatch changes

[Glenn Fitzpatrick 3,798]

 There is an issue Asobo are investigating where you will get CTDs trying to load anywhere near certain addon scenery if Bing downloads are enabled.  If it is scenery like Orbx Sydney it crashes as you approach the city in flight, if it is an addon airport (such as the freeware Rotorua) it crashes while loading there.

This seems to be a new bug introduced with the pre-patch changes made in preparation for the UK update and applies to marketplace scenery as well as items in the community folder.

The work around is turn off Bing downloads and delete the rolling cache.

 

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/bing-data-causing-crashes-with-add-on-airports-or-scenery/364649/14

Edited February 13, 2021 by Glenn Fitzpatrick

[Glenn Fitzpatrick 3,798]

An update from the MSFS thread:

 

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It seems that there is a conflict between the add-on ground textures and the Bing files. If the addon has its own ground textures (cgl files) rename the .cgl files to .cglxxx, and the sceneries work fine with activated Bing data, only with the restriction that the ground textures are now the standard Bing textures.

 

[DAD 2,650]

Thx but is this really new? Hearing this now it seems to be a perfect explanation why I often got / sometimes still get CTDs already before WU3 when approaching EDDK, LSZH, EKCH or ENVA which are all 3PD scenery on my end. But anyway good they found that out and happy to wait for a fix for this then

[Car147 2,276]

10 minutes ago, DAD said:

Thx but is this really new? Hearing this now it seems to be a perfect explanation why I often got / sometimes still get CTDs already before WU3 when approaching EDDK, LSZH, EKCH or ENVA which are all 3PD scenery on my end. But anyway good they found that out and happy to wait for a fix for this then

I agree, and hopefully gives a reason  why i suddenly started getting so many CTD's  in the past week or so.

Edited February 13, 2021 by Car147

[Jedi928 6]

Same for me lot of CTD since yesterday with third party addons even with Bingdata off!

CTD with Bing On is coming during scenery load

CTD with Bing Off is coming a few minutes after scenery load

Something is really broken

[bobcat999 8,473]

Well, lots of 'word not allowed!'   Thanks for highlighting this Glenn.  I think the easiest thing for me to do is do a search for all the .cgl files and temporarily rename them to something like cglX so I can find them again afterwards. 

I take it the cgl's could also be in the Official folder as well as the Community folder.  So my first question is does it also affect the Asobo upgraded airports we download from the marketplace?

It's a shame this happens at the weekend again.  Another undocumented 'stealth' change without warning.  They shoot themselves in the foot so often, they are going to need a new set of feet!

[Carts85 1,203]

I got my first ever CTD in the sim yesterday as I landed at EDDK. This could be quite a wide spread problem.

[bobcat999 8,473]

Not looking good!  I just did a scan and it found thousands of .cgl files in my community folder, and I don't carry too much in there. 
Most of them relate to mappamundi's glitch fix for spikes, but also for things like the new boat pack for the Channel Islands, and my High Wycombe airfield add on.

So what are the consequences of turning off Bing data?  Default ground textures and no photogrammetry?

I just feel like leaving MSFS alone for a while until they fix this whole sorry mess.  Is Cyberpunk 2077 any good? 

Edited February 13, 2021 by bobcat999

[omarsmak30 4,068]

This is getting annoying for real, I mean it doesn't has be a habit on them to break things upon every release. What is worse, in a weekend, where I was looking forward to just fly after a hectic work week. It is frustrating Microsoft and Asobo, before you broke the terrain, we said yeah okay, but now this?

[David Roch 1,982]

This new bug is barely acceptable.
Most of 3PD airports are impacted.
Fortunately the Official content is OK.

Instead of renaming the .cgl file, I suggest renaming the CGL folder in each and every scenery where there is one.
It will be easier to pinpoint them later when Asobo will fix the problem.

[Axis3600 50]

Deactivating Bing data means going back to FS2002 ...
Tragic

[omarsmak30 4,068]

27 minutes ago, David Roch said:

This new bug is barely acceptable.

Sorry but I don't think is barely acceptable, is not acceptable indeed. The sim now is CTD in almost every 3rd party airports, that makes it for me not acceptable

 

[Car147 2,276]

Excuse my ignorance, but why can they not just roll the sim back to when it was stable... surely they back up in case of something like this?

[Ianrivaldosmith 5,317]

Ahhhh this explains my CTD’s! I thought it was because I started using VR, then I thought it was sim connect causing it. Now it seems as if it was my addon airport all along (ORBX EGNT). 
 

Why oh why are these things not picked up before they’re released? It’s astonishing really. 

[bobcat999 8,473]

I thought the beta test program was in place.  Are massive issues like this still being missed? 
I think they need to delay the Tuesday update; it makes me seriously pensive, and we still have no choice but to download it. 
Then again, with enforced and unannounced changes like this going on in the background, it wouldn't make any difference even if we had a choice to defer the updates.