Hi

Just noticed on the Aerosoft CRJ thread.

For those intending to purchase the Aerosoft CRJ please be aware on the initial installation there will be a period of in activity (ie it looks as if the program has crashed) for between 7-10 mins ONLY when you first install the the aircraft.

They just want to get it out there on the forums so folk are aware, as they are concerned it could look like there's an issue, and could  cause unneccessary frustration and support calls. As with anything slower machines will take nearer the 10mins...

From the forum

See, when you load the 550 and the 700 for the first time in the simulator there is a translation done from the C++ code to the WASM code the sim needs. Even on a high performance system this takes minutes. Now I know installers often say to be patient for 'minutes' to do something and it takes seconds, but in this case it will be minutes. On both, the MS Store as well as the Steam version of MSFS it takes about 5-8 minutes on a current high performance PC. On older and/or slower machines, this time can easily extend beyond 10 minutes.  And all that time MFS will not show anything and be unresponsive.  This behavior might also be visible after an update.

 

As you understand, we are very worried that customers will feel the sim has crashed because of the add-on. But this behavior is fully normal and will only happen the first time that aircraft type is loaded. Any add-on that uses C++ code will behave like that. The more C++ code the longer the pause will be.

 

Edited February 26, 20215 yr by Car147

13 minutes ago, Car147 said:

7-10 mins ONLY when you first install the the aircraft

 

"See, when you load the 550 and the 700 for the first time in the simulator there is a translation done from the C++ code to the WASM code the sim needs. Even on a high performance system this takes minutes. Now I know installers often say to be patient for 'minutes' to do something and it takes seconds, but in this case it will be minutes. On both, the MS Store as well as the Steam version of MSFS it takes about 5-8 minutes on a current high performance PC. On older and/or slower machines, this time can easily extend beyond 10 minutes.  And all that time MFS will not show anything and be unresponsive.  This behavior might also be visible after an update.

 

As you understand, we are very worried that customers will feel the sim has crashed because of the add-on. But this behavior is fully normal and will only happen the first time that aircraft type is loaded. Any add-on that uses C++ code will behave like that. The more C++ code the longer the pause will be."

Just how many people are going to think its crashed?

 

Edited February 26, 20215 yr by Nyxx

3 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

7-10 mins "only" thats a joke

Ok, just trying to help... lol

Just now, Car147 said:

Ok, just trying to help... lol

I just look up and edited. you are helping.

So...say I have 5 complicated aircraft with a bunch of WASM code, do I get to spend an hour after every update sitting and waiting for it to recompile?

What a great design Asobo.  🙄

This is the kind of stupidity you end up with when you use "web frameworks" that are intended for a few lines of code on a website to write parts of a complex simulation.

Edited February 26, 20215 yr by marsman2020

3 minutes ago, marsman2020 said:

This is the kind of stupidity you end up with when you use "web frameworks" that are intended for a few lines of code on a website to write parts of a complex simulation.

Sorry but this is complete nonsense. Since when "web frameworks" only used to write few lines of code for simple website? You do know many of these apps in your phone or your computer or even complex systems that do your payment transactions are being built using these "web frameworks"?😄

 

10 minutes ago, marsman2020 said:

So...say I have 5 complicated aircraft with a bunch of WASM code, do I get to spend an hour after every update sitting and waiting for it to recompile?

What a great design Asobo.  🙄

This is the kind of stupidity you end up with when you use "web frameworks" that are intended for a few lines of code on a website to write parts of a complex simulation.

You obviously have no clue how WASM works and what it is capable of.

9 minutes ago, marsman2020 said:

What a great design Asobo

Instead of complaining, do it better. Worst job in pandemic times is to a be a politician. You cannot do one thing right. The same applies to software developers in the flight simulator community.

11 minutes ago, crimplene said:

You obviously have no clue how WASM works and what it is capable of.

It makes 0 sense to expect a user to spend 10+ minutes per complex aircraft re-compiling things on their own machine after every sim update.

But this is exactly the half-assed solution I expect from Asobo at this point.

Edited February 26, 20215 yr by marsman2020

26 minutes ago, marsman2020 said:

So...say I have 5 complicated aircraft with a bunch of WASM code, do I get to spend an hour after every update sitting and waiting for it to recompile?

Nope, only when it initially installs.

8 minutes ago, marsman2020 said:

It makes 0 sense to expect a user to spend 10+ minutes per complex aircraft re-compiling things on their own machine after every sim update.

But this is exactly the half-assed solution I expect from Asobo at this point.

Okay let me read it correctly, so you are complaining about 10min taken away from your life after every update, which maybe monthly or even every few months? Oh boy, really our sim community got a real problem here 😄

Edited February 26, 20215 yr by omarsmak30

1 minute ago, Chock said:

Nope, only when it initially installs.

Post on the Aerosoft forum says (see bold):

Quote

See, when you load the 550 and the 700 for the first time in the simulator there is a translation done from the C++ code to the WASM code the sim needs. Even on a high performance system this takes minutes. Now I know installers often say to be patient for 'minutes' to do something and it takes seconds, but in this case it will be minutes. On both, the MS Store as well as the Steam version of MSFS it takes about 5-8 minutes on a current high performance PC. On older and/or slower machines, this time can easily extend beyond 10 minutes.  And all that time MFS will not show anything and be unresponsive.  This behavior might also be visible after an update.

 

huh, CRJ was released?

16 minutes ago, marsman2020 said:

Post on the Aerosoft forum says (see bold):

So what it actually says is: this behavior might also be visible after an update.

But more importantly, where are you going to get '5 complicated aircraft' from for MSFS? 🤣

Edited February 26, 20215 yr by Chock

Thanks for the heads up, good to know.

Now that we prepared with that knowledge, Aerosoft can go ahead and release it 🙂