Looking at some of the comments and personal attacks, I believe the following excerpt from another post of mine is relevant in this topic, which is why I feel compelled to post a copy here:
 

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We all want this franchise to succeed, as much as we all want P3D and XPlane franchises to succeed to. I'm sure about this. If not for the love of simming with a variety of platforms each with its own strength, at least to prevent contributing to building a monopoly which in the end will restrict our choices. Competition is not good, even if you're a strong proponent of capitalism. Competition is destructive and you can see how much we're trying to destroy each other arguments in this topic, instead of building up and uniting our forces and desires.

Please don't taint this as a "union" tainted speech either, even if this sounds like this 🙂 But when I read some reactions to my posts where some are trying to prove I'm wrong form a technical standpoint, even if I am without me knowing, instead of wondering why a seasoned 3rd party developers in this industry is raising such questions, this makes me wondering if this community is really wanting this franchise, let alone the genre, to succeed.

 

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/597725-lets-not-accept-the-fact-that-fs-is-just-a-videogame-now/page/26/?tab=comments#comment-4505044

 

25 minutes ago, RXP said:

@mSparks Since they've posted this information, the CRJ is now released.

It appears Asobo is working closely with their developers now, and they seem to mention there is no major roadblocks ahead:

There are many comments about this on the following page(s) you might want to read too.

 

 

PMDGs more recent comments are fairly on point to.

something along the lines of quoting what they said in early 2020 would be like quoting a 1950s NASA director in the 1970s that they dont have the technology to put a man on the moon.

It wasn't intended to characterize msfs so much as give an easy to digest example of devs criticizing publicly vs what goes on privately.

When every day is filled with new and old bugs, things have to be pretty severe to take time out of the day to bring up bugs and issues.

Normal operating procedure is just to keep quiet......

Edited March 26, 20215 yr by mSparks

@mSparks don't worry, I read you loud and clear and I believe I understand the reasoning behind your comments above. I just wanted to put this in new perspective, and suggesting you read the comments on the following page(s) 😉

30 minutes ago, FlyBaby said:

Should have stopped here like you said you would...but...

I see the concept of stopping reading 1 single post, due to the obvious text wall, is lost on you.   

30 minutes ago, FlyBaby said:

Decided to come back because you were frustrated...

Decided to come back because of meme worthy material.  You simply can't stop tagging me.  I get, on average, 4 notifications that you tagged me or quoted me, for every 1 post I make.  Bordering on stalking behaviour.

30 minutes ago, FlyBaby said:

Trying to bait me...having no idea that MSFS had more than 2 million pilots in their sim.

Ok, MSFS has 2 million pilots.  Does that make you feel better?  I'll even double it for you.  It has 4 million pilots.  Still doesn't change my mind about anything.

30 minutes ago, FlyBaby said:

Still trying....Still baiting...still clueless...

At least Greazer posted a link.  Which is what I asked for.  No matter how far between the lines you want to read.

30 minutes ago, FlyBaby said:

Call them what you want, but MSFS has over 2 million of them...

Cool!

30 minutes ago, FlyBaby said:

And what platform do you develop for????

The one that has given me a living for the past 12 years.  Why does it frustrate you so much that I choose to develop for the same sim these forums are dedicated to?

30 minutes ago, FlyBaby said:

So...you went from ignoring (so called), to accusing, to baiting this random person, in less than 24 hours. Only to be educated on the cost of opportunity...when you are busy passing memes amongst developers for a stagnant platform.

LOL.  If you want to look at it that way, and if that makes you feel better to say that, whatever.  

30 minutes ago, FlyBaby said:

Like I said before, I am not a frustrated Dev "scolding" people on a forum because they criticize the platform that I "chose" to stick with...you are

If it makes you feel better by calling it "scolding", ok.  I call it "correcting".  I guess it's all a matter of interpretation.  

I don't think there's anything on the planet that doesn't get critcized (obviously besides MSFS, because MSFS is perfect, and it has 2 million pilots using it.)

30 minutes ago, FlyBaby said:

I did not have to try at all, you made this history (above) yourself...

Like I said, at last count, for every 1 post I make, you tag me 4 times.  Seems like you're trying quite a bit to draw me in.  But that's ok, I have time to do these things because I work from home in a field that has given me a living for 12 years.  

Have a wonderful day!

 

Edited March 26, 20215 yr by GoranM

14 minutes ago, RXP said:

@mSparks don't worry, I read you loud and clear and I believe I understand the reasoning behind your comments above. I just wanted to put this in new perspective, and suggesting you read the comments on the following page(s) 😉

The avsim mods determined that i must use a prontab to read such threads.

The avsim mods were wise. Although I mostly tired of trying to cut through the hyperbole some time ago, it is interesting to see some old stalkers making something of an about face.

I think my most memorable thread from prelaunch was the discussion of how much harder it is to build a simulated plane than to build a real one, that really felt like me against the world, wow, back then the 744 overhaul was little more than a basic hydraulic system model and YA was still a thing.....

I wonder what PMDG will choose, the widespread expectation is something better than P3D, but those millions of MSFS "pilots" are unlikely to appreciate or pay for that.

 

57 minutes ago, GoranM said:

Ok, MSFS has 2 million pilots.  Does that make you feel better?  I'll even double it for you.  It has 4 million pilots.  Still doesn't change my mind about anything.

Those are millions of simmers not buying addons in the XP addon marketplace, you should be more concerned, and because why? they do not address crashes to desktop, or all the other issues and poor graphics.

Folks,

no more personal attacks period! Back on topic now...

Cheers

Pete

32 minutes ago, Greazer said:

Those are millions of simmers not buying addons in the XP addon marketplace, you should be more concerned, and because why? they do not address crashes to desktop, or all the other issues and poor graphics.

Ok, I'm going to break down MY take on this.  

Up until where it is stated, the following are NOT opinions.  They are facts.

Microsoft Flight Simulator, for all it's eye candy, is a very nice looking sim...however (this is fact), it is NOT capable of doing what we (the people I work with) want it to do.  Not by a long shot.  Remember, this is FACT, not opinion.  I've spoken to MSFS developers, and I have looked into the SDK.

(Technical jargon follows)

There is much, much more to making an add on than simply coding (in laymans terms) "If switch == on then light == 1, else light == off"

This is how the vast majority of add ons are coded.  And there's nothing wrong with that.  It gives people their suspension of disbelief, and as long as they enjoy what they have purchased, everything is good.  Personally, I prefer to work with people who code actual relay logic into their electrical systems.  Real world effects of cabin pressurization on the fuselage, leading to, eventually, a ruptured cabin pressure vessel...if not properly maintained through a maintenance manager.  I want fuel leaks that take into account the bernouli principal.  I want leaking hydraulic lines if the hydraulic lines are not repaired or replaced.  I want Kalman filters filtering out GPS noise when using IRS's.  I want fuel weight effects on the fuselage when flying based on actual weight...not a random arbitrary number that says "If fuel weight in the left wing is x, tilt the aircraft on the longitudinal axis y°.  

A lot of what I want out of an add on I create is not even remotely available in MSFS.  

[End Facts]

All of what I posted above IS available in X-Plane, because the SDK allows for it.  And all of the above, which represents less than 5% of what we have done, has already been done in the CL650 I'm working on.

My job, as a developer, along with Laminar, is to try to entice people over to X-plane, which I believe is the better, OVERALL flight sim.  And I want to do that with the aircraft I help to create.  And I will not, for want of a better term, "sell out" to another flight sim purely for more money.  I make a very comfortable living as it is, and I am more than happy doing so, while staying HAPPY in my platform of choice...MY choice.  The ONLY reason I will move to MSFS is if Laminar officially close up and wish us good luck.  

Edited March 27, 20215 yr by GoranM

6 hours ago, GoranM said:

on.

My job, as a developer, along with Laminar, is to try to entice people over to X-plane, which I believe is the better, OVERALL flight sim.  And I want to do that with the aircraft I help to create.  And I will not, for want of a better term, "sell out" to another flight sim purely for more money.  I make a very comfortable living as it is, and I am more than happy doing so, while staying HAPPY in my platform of choice...MY choice.  The ONLY reason I will move to MSFS is if Laminar officially close up and wish us good luck.  

I for one respect your decision and so be it. From the perspective of the flight sim community as a whole it does seem a pity though.

29 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

I for one respect your decision and so be it. From the perspective of the flight sim community as a whole it does seem a pity though.

FS has enough developers making a quick buck dont need any more. He they have Carendao you should be ecstatic.

32 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

I for one respect your decision and so be it. From the perspective of the flight sim community as a whole it does seem a pity though.

 

2 minutes ago, mjrhealth said:

FS has enough developers making a quick buck dont need any more. He they have Carendao you should be ecstatic.

It’s all good. I appreciate the comments, if I’m interpreting them correctly, but the MSFS payware market will do well enough. And if people want to try my add ons, nothing is stopping them from having X-Plane installed as well. 

2 minutes ago, mjrhealth said:

FS has enough developers making a quick buck dont need any more. He they have Carendao you should be ecstatic.

So does XP. I think it's a shame it's all become so partisan. I use and enjoy both sims and want great planes in both.

2 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

So does XP. I think it's a shame it's all become so partisan. I use and enjoy both sims and want great planes in both.

Well he could charge double the price for porting onto a different system, not sure many would be happy though, already complaing of high prices, but that comes with to days stupid world and people need to be paid.

2 minutes ago, GoranM said:

 

It’s all good. I appreciate the comments, if I’m interpreting them correctly, but the MSFS payware market will do well enough. And if people want to try my add ons, nothing is stopping them from having X-Plane installed as well. 

I will succumb to the TBM no doubt in the end!😀 I'm waiting for XP12. I've just watched an excellent tutorial by Simulation Channel Deluxe. It is a superb piece of work. 

41 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

I will succumb to the TBM no doubt in the end!😀 I'm waiting for XP12. I've just watched an excellent tutorial by Simulation Channel Deluxe. It is a superb piece of work. 

Why??  nothing wrong with xplane 11. Id pack some handkerchiefs you may need them when you are again disappointed.