March 22, 20215 yr Author 2 hours ago, marsman2020 said: Interior or exterior view? All in cockpit view, day time, the default view, Zoom 50. Edited March 22, 20215 yr by Nyxx David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
March 22, 20215 yr 6 minutes ago, Nyxx said: If I turn up Render scale below I only lose 2 FPS. I Went from 54 to 52 it shows 58 becasue I had to hit apply and resume. I turned Render scale to its max 200 8K and in the JF PA I had 28-35 FPS Generally speaking there isn’t much difference between 1440p and 4K when using the 3080/3090 - both are badly held back by CPU bottleneck as we know. New PC Ryzen 9850X3D - 32gb ddr5 6000Mhz - MSI MAG B850 Tomahawk wifi - Gigabyte wind force gaming OC 5090 - 2TB Sabrent NVMe. Old PC - Ryzen 5900x - 32gb 3600Mhz RAM - Asus Strix X570-F Motherboard - ASUS TUF OC RTX 3090 - 1TB Sabrent NVMe. AOC AGON 32" 144Hz - Honeycomb Yoke - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog. T Flight Rudder Pedals - Trackir.
March 23, 20215 yr Author OK, I Down Loaded the A320 FBW Version 0.5.4 and the easyjet livery. So...what do you think the FPS will be? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Airport EGNX Runway 28 not an addon airport not in the middle of no where. But a good average airport to test. Live weather was 6/8 cloud cover. Setting Ultra, 1440p MSFS 172 (None Glass) FPS 58 JF PA-28 FPS 54 FBW A320 FPS 50 <<<<< CJ4wt FPS 50 MSFS A320 Neo FPS 49 Carenado M20 FPS 48 AS CRJ FPS 36 Or as a percentage from the 172 JF PA-28 - 5% CJ4wt - 13% MSFS A320 Neo - 14% Carenado M20 - 15% AS CRJ - 38% --------------------------------------------------------- So the FBW is amazing. Greyed out as I am beta testing. Clouds were not so much but thats would not make any diffrence. I ran the test 2 time to make sure this was right. I was surprised. Edited March 23, 20215 yr by Nyxx David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
March 23, 20215 yr Woudn't have expected that, to be honest. Especially since for quite some time people were even turning the screens on the right in the cockpit to gain some more fps with it. Chock 1.1: "The only thing that whines louder than a jet engine is a flight simmer."
March 23, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, Nyxx said: So the FBW is amazing. I can confirm your figures - or rather the relative difference. I ran a quick and dirty test of just the C172 and the FBW Dev version, EGNX Rwy28, 4k. C172: 52 fps A320: 47 fps Cheers, Søren DissingIntel i9-13900K @5.6-5.8 Ghz | ASUS ROG RYUJIN III | ASUS ROG Astral RTX 5090 OC | ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero | 64Gb DDR5 @5600 | 1Tb Samsung M.2 980 PRO (Win11), 1Tb Samsung M.2 980 PRO, | ASUS ROG Helios 601 | 32” ASUS PG32UCDM 240hz 4K | Chaseplane | TM TCA Captain's Edition, Winwing FCU + EFIS L/R, Tobii 5 | Win 11 Pro 64 | MSFS 2024 | BA Virtual | PSXT, RealTraffic w/ AIG models
March 23, 20215 yr Author 18 minutes ago, SierraDelta said: I can confirm your figures - or rather the relative difference. I ran a quick and dirty test of just the C172 and the FBW Dev version, EGNX Rwy28, 4k. C172: 52 fps A320: 47 fps Thank you Soren, for the confirmation and your time. David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
March 23, 20215 yr So are we saying that the Aerosoft CRJ is just a complex aircraft that requires a lot of processor cycles and it should be expected, or do we think it should be better and needs to be optimised? Although it seems the mod to turn off the co-pilot screens gains a few FPS back for people, is that due to a GPU of a CPU saving? Edited March 23, 20215 yr by bobcat999 Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
March 23, 20215 yr Thanks for the information, I run the sim at 3440x1440 with 10900k and 2080Ti, and I get about the same performance as you, so for me it's a waste of money to buy a 3080, good to know. System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 64Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | Seasonic Vertex 1000W I LG Ultra Gear 34 UW I
March 23, 20215 yr Author 2 minutes ago, Ixoye said: Thanks for the information, I run the sim at 3440x1440 with 10900k and 2080Ti, and I get about the same performance as you, so for me it's a waste of money to buy a 3080, good to know. The 2080Ti and the 3080 at 1440p are around the same, its when you goto 4k it realy makes a big diffrence. Edited March 23, 20215 yr by Nyxx David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
March 23, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, Nyxx said: OK, I Down Loaded the A320 FBW Version 0.5.4 and the easyjet livery. So...what do you think the FPS will be? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Airport EGNX Runway 28 not an addon airport not in the middle of no where. But a good average airport to test. Live weather was 6/8 cloud cover. Setting Ultra, 1440p MSFS 172 (None Glass) FPS 58 JF PA-28 FPS 54 FBW A320 FPS 50 <<<<< CJ4wt FPS 50 MSFS A320 Neo FPS 49 WOW, the FBW faster than the default A320? I will try it now. UPDATE: for me it's 46 fps with the default A320 Neo and 39 fps with FBW's... If can make an observation, I think you should test these aircraft with settings that put the sim in "limited by main thread" conditions with the C172 already. That's because if at some point you are limited by GPU, this can flatten the results and make two aircraft having different performance, actually give the same framerate. Edited March 23, 20215 yr by MrFuzzy 7800X3D | 2x32 GB DDR5-6000 CL32 | RTX 5080 | Alienware OLED 34" | 1 Gbps fiber
March 23, 20215 yr Interesting, but without giving any hardware specs... or did I miss those? Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
March 23, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, Nyxx said: The 2080Ti and the 3080 at 1440p are around the same, its when you goto 4k it realy makes a big diffrence. Do you use Cockpit Refresh Rate at High? I use Medium with Airliners and High with GA, that one is a fps killer, I prefer High settings and I can't stand anything lower than Medium. System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 64Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | Seasonic Vertex 1000W I LG Ultra Gear 34 UW I
March 23, 20215 yr @Nyxx would it possible if you can post the screenshots for the in-sim FPS counter window? The one that shows Main Thread, GPU, Cohrent, RdrThread, RAM bing used by MSFS and the VRAM being used by MSFS. You can get it from after enabling the dev mode under one drop down menu. These are important info that can help us to know which factor limiting the FPS at each case. AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 64GB DDR5 6000MHZ RAM, RX7900XT, FreeSync 165hz 1440p display
March 23, 20215 yr Author I realy dont want to do all the test again. Sorry, All I can say is the airport I use, when I run unlimited FPS I am CPU limited. To bring in the GPU I have to render scale up. 120 has no effect and thats the setting for the tests, When I cap FPS the CPU is then not caped out and I balance that with Render scale, but its a bit hard with MSFS performance atm. David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
March 23, 20215 yr Author 1 hour ago, Ixoye said: Do you use Cockpit Refresh Rate at High? I use Medium with Airliners and High with GA, that one is a fps killer, I prefer High settings and I can't stand anything lower than Medium. I use Med or low as the refreash rate in an real airbus are low, proberly not a Neo but I am use to it. So All the tests were dont on MED. Airbus was done on low. David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
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