May 22, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, steve310002 said: (...) most average sim users will never justify spending large sums of cash for an addon no matter how detailed it is. To be fair, and I say this as non-eletist as possible, most average simmers are not PMDG's target audience. PMDG knows they can make more money by spending 1/100th the development time to build a $20 airliner. They intentionally cut their profits to reach a very niche market. Take-offs are optional, landings are mandatory.The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire. To make a small fortune in aviation you must start with a large fortune.There's nothing less important than the runway behind you and the altitude above you. It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground.
May 22, 20215 yr Will it release on the Marketplace? What has always intrigued me is how well the Majestic Dash 8 performs in FSX/P3D--very close to default planes--which apparently has something to do with running the flight model calculations off of the sims' main thread. And more specifically, if this is a valid explanation for this atypical for a 'study level' plane, why the heck this isn't done by other devs like PMDG, if in fact it isn't done. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
May 22, 20215 yr This is the only plane I was wanting and I was expecting it to be the last one PMDG releases. First day buy for me. Tim Curtis MSFS2020, i7-9900k 5.0Ghz, 32GB Ram, Nvidia 3080, 48" LG OLED CX
May 22, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Noel said: Will it release on the Marketplace? What has always intrigued me is how well the Majestic Dash 8 performs in FSX/P3D--very close to default planes--which apparently has something to do with running the flight model calculations off of the sims' main thread. And more specifically, if this is a valid explanation for this atypical for a 'study level' plane, why the heck this isn't done by other devs like PMDG, if in fact it isn't done. Hopefully majestic will make an announcement about their q400 soon. My favorite plane of all time
May 22, 20215 yr I would point out that the DC-6 was also PMDG's first (and last) foray into X-Plane...they abandoned it after XP10 and after discovering the tremendous aggravation of trying to keep it running after each new version of X-Plane (including the minor ones) broke it. We should all breathe a big sigh of relief that MSFS doesn't have a similar short update cycle that breaks things... Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it. - George Santayana Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
May 22, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, Noel said: Will it release on the Marketplace? What has always intrigued me is how well the Majestic Dash 8 performs in FSX/P3D--very close to default planes--which apparently has something to do with running the flight model calculations off of the sims' main thread. And more specifically, if this is a valid explanation for this atypical for a 'study level' plane, why the heck this isn't done by other devs like PMDG, if in fact it isn't done. Noel, this has been asked many times and PMDG have also stated that there aircraft do run outside the sim. To what degree they dont say but. The complexation of a NG 777 747 is far great than a q400 as good and amazing as it is as an aircraft and as light as it is on FPS. David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
May 22, 20215 yr 8 minutes ago, Noel said: Will it release on the Marketplace? What has always intrigued me is how well the Majestic Dash 8 performs in FSX/P3D--very close to default planes--which apparently has something to do with running the flight model calculations off of the sims' main thread. And more specifically, if this is a valid explanation for this atypical for a 'study level' plane, why the heck this isn't done by other devs like PMDG, if in fact it isn't done. I hope so, PMDG is obviously trying to modernize their company at the same time with the launch of a YT channel and possibility of streaming I hope they make their products available through the market place (as well as other stores for people who don't like it). I for one don't want to purchase it through their website and then by forced to display my full name/passport number on their forums when I want support!
May 22, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Nyxx said: Noel, this has been asked many times and PMDG have also stated that there aircraft do run outside the sim. To what degree they dont say but. The complexation of a NG 777 747 is far great than a q400 as good and amazing as it is as an aircraft and as light as it is on FPS. I've seen trash carenado planes that were heavier on the performance than the q400, and we all know those aren't complex, so I think it's all about the programming
May 22, 20215 yr 5 minutes ago, w6kd said: I would point out that the DC-6 was also PMDG's first (and last) foray into X-Plane...they abandoned it after XP10 and after discovering the tremendous aggravation of trying to keep it running after each new version of X-Plane (including the minor ones) broke it. We should all breathe a big sigh of relief that MSFS doesn't have a similar short update cycle that breaks things... Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it. - George Santayana Excellent observation, hoping the best for the DC-6 this time for MSFS. My signature was dedicated to the DC-6 since the day one of MSFS. Missing the PMDG DC6 in MSFS 2024 (she's here, but...).
May 22, 20215 yr 28 minutes ago, WestAir said: To be fair, and I say this as non-eletist as possible, most average simmers are not PMDG's target audience. PMDG knows they can make more money by spending 1/100th the development time to build a $20 airliner. They intentionally cut their profits to reach a very niche market. I fully agree. I just think even from their position they could make a heck of a lot more profit in the $50 to $60 price range. I am lucky that I 'could' afford to pay more but as much as I respect their great quality and reputation, I just can't justify it to myself out of principle as it's just too much (assuming it will be considerably more expensive relative to lets say the CRJ)
May 22, 20215 yr 22 minutes ago, w6kd said: I would point out that the DC-6 was also PMDG's first (and last) foray into X-Plane...they abandoned it after XP10 and after discovering the tremendous aggravation of trying to keep it running after each new version of X-Plane (including the minor ones) broke it. We should all breathe a big sigh of relief that MSFS doesn't have a similar short update cycle that breaks things... Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it. - George Santayana Very sarcastic Bob. Not a fan of MSFS Bob, I read you really dont like that you can not make your own weather (visability), well thats true but if you used live weather you can have your visability down to amazing levels but hey enjoy what ever sim you enjoy the most. I just dont understand you need to pop in to be so sarcastic. I think the relasionship with MS/Asobo is far greater than the one with XPlane. Also if PMDG though that MSFS was going to be an ongoing problem after Xplane do you think they would be here? and singing there prasers like Rob did in the vid. When to say in 6 weeks time, "O they updated the sim and something broke we are out of MSFS!"..... Here is some low viz for you. best viewd at full screen. Edited May 22, 20215 yr by Nyxx David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
May 22, 20215 yr 8 minutes ago, devgrp said: I've seen trash carenado planes that were heavier on the performance than the q400, and we all know those aren't complex, so I think it's all about the programming Yes it is, your right and the Q400 is the very best at being FPS friendy. But its no NG FSL etc in its complextion. David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
May 22, 20215 yr In the video, Randazzo estimates the 737 will be released between the end of summer (so September?) to between the end of 2021. Wow, that's amazing. I was expecting a 2022 release of the 737 but Randazzo has moved the schedule up for it. i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
May 22, 20215 yr 21 minutes ago, w6kd said: I would point out that the DC-6 was also PMDG's first (and last) foray into X-Plane...they abandoned it after XP10 and after discovering the tremendous aggravation of trying to keep it running after each new version of X-Plane (including the minor ones) broke it. P3D was a viable alternative platform to X-Plane. This allowed PMDG to keep its sales rolling on P3D. IMO, neither P3D nor X-Plane as they are right now are a viable platform to MSFS. Both P3D and X-Plane are a decade in technology behind MSFS. Even when the IPhone came out in 2007, the Blackberry was not a decade behind the IPhone. So yes, Blackberry was in a better position than P3D/X-Plane when the IPhone came out in 2007 but look what happened to the Blackberry. If the consumer market shifts hard to MSFS and PMDG wants to stay viable in the consumer flight simulation business, they are going to have to stick with MSFS. The exception is if somehow, the next version of P3D or X-Plane have a huge leap in technology - that is, a revolutionary improvement - to bring it on par with MSFS. I don't see that happening though because their past version releases have always been incremental improvements at best, not revolutionary improvement. Edited May 22, 20215 yr by abrams_tank i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
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