23 minutes ago, Donka said:

Me too. Much prefer the lower tail.

I was not the only one then 👍

 

You should try and fly a T tail in real life they are tail wagging eg Seminole tomahawk

12 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

@Nyxx Great angles on the pictures, and I love that Gulf repaint as well.

Where is that estuary in the second picture?

 

11 hours ago, ryanbatcund said:

Where is this?

Just South of Lincoln City

Just North of  Siletz bay state airport.

7 hours ago, The Moose said:

I always was the odd one out 😄   Can't stand T-tails on small planes, looks fugly.   I get in the cockpit and never use an external cam so i can forget it has one 😛   

 

Not really concerned with the looks either way, what I don't like about T-Tail GA aeroplanes, and even mid-tailed ones, is that you can't easily examine the elevators one a walkaround check, you'd need to drag out some engineer's steps or some such. Doesn't matter much in a flight sim of course, but it'd stop me from buying one in real life if there was a standard-tailed alternative.

That's another good thing about this product though; you get the Turbo Arrow III and the IV, so you can have either tail.

I just bought the Arrow - it’s the first Piper I’ve ever bought for a sim. I’m enjoying it a lot, and it brings me a lot of the satisfaction that I got from SimCoders’ REP for the default X-Plane 11 C172 before I made the switch to MSFS.

I’ve only had a couple of flights with it so far, but one thing I’ve noticed is that I keep needing to apply quite a lot of right rudder pressure, even in cruise, and that the left wing drops without permanent opposite pressure on the yoke. Am I doing something wrong, forgetting to trim something correctly, or does this simply reflect the behaviour of this aircraft?

4 minutes ago, Redge said:

I just bought the Arrow - it’s the first Piper I’ve ever bought for a sim. I’m enjoying it a lot, and it brings me a lot of the satisfaction that I got from SimCoders’ REP for the default X-Plane 11 C172 before I made the switch to MSFS.

I’ve only had a couple of flights with it so far, but one thing I’ve noticed is that I keep needing to apply quite a lot of right rudder pressure, even in cruise, and that the left wing drops without permanent opposite pressure on the yoke. Am I doing something wrong, forgetting to trim something correctly, or does this simply reflect the behaviour of this aircraft?

Do you see the left hand wing drop if you have balanced pilot and co pilots set up in the weight screen ?

Edited June 3, 20215 yr by Matchstick

33 minutes ago, Matchstick said:

Do you see the left hand wing drop if you have balanced pilot and co pilots set up in the weight screen ?

Ooh, that's an interesting point. I'm also having the left wing drop and hadn't considered it could be a balance issue. Thanks for the pointer!

Thanks for the tip @Matchstick! I haven’t checked that. I’m not at the sim right now but will check it out and let you know if that solves it.

45 minutes ago, mrfilbert said:

Ooh, that's an interesting point. I'm also having the left wing drop and hadn't considered it could be a balance issue. Thanks for the pointer!

I asked the exact same question earlier in this thread after my first two flights, and got the same tip! And I now add 170 for the copilot, when I remember. 🙄 Which leads me to a question…is it possible to start cold and dark with the copilot weight included and the cabin door open? I know we can save the previous state of the plane, but would just like these two options, without having to shut everything down from the previous flight, which might not always be possible as many times flights are automatically ended. 

I too tried various ways within the Sim to balance and save the weight for the JF Arrow III. None were "permanent". Then I discovered a way to do it thanks to suggestions made by others in various forums. It works perfectly.

Here are the steps I did:
 - Navigated to "...\Community\justflight-aircraft-pa28-arrow-iii\SimObjects\Airplanes\JF_PA28_Arrow\flight_model.cfg"
 - Opened the "flight_model.cfg" file with a text editor
 - Located a line near the top with "station_load.1..." in it
 - Changed only the "=0" to "=170" in that line
 - Saved the file
 - This puts 170lbs into the right seat, permanently
 - Works great whenever flying the Arrow III, no need to use Sim menus
 - I suspect the "flight_model.cfg" for the turbos can be changed in same manner if they also drift left
 - Of course the path to their "flight_model.cfg" files will be different

Such a change will have to be repeated for subsequent versions. This can be done via re-editing that line from "=170" to "=0", reinstallation of the aircraft, or restoring the original file from a backup of the aircraft.

Hope this works for you

Of course there is also rudder trim in this aircraft.

Equal fuel in both wing tanks??

This guy gives a good run through of the basics of the Turbo Arrow ...

 

 

Thanks for the tips, all! I found some time over the weekend to take the Arrow up again, and the dropping wing was caused by both factors mentioned:

• Adding the co-pilot in the W&B (and not just visibly) helped balance the weight
• I realised that the persistent state was changing my fuel after I loaded the flight, so even if I added 50% to both tanks in the menus, the fuel in the tanks once the flight started, was actually based on the previous flight.

Doubly bad of me to not notice the second point during my flight prep! 

Looks like another update is in the works -- it might have oxygen -- O2 -- see below:

https://community.justflight.com/topic/2323/oxygen/5