Is MSFS 2020 worth the hassle of a move from FSX-SE?

[Isaiah53six 134]

ultimately it's your decision but nothing else compares to the beauty and some realism of MFS as it stands today.  I own the steam premium version because I can actually find the game files. ;D

Edited May 28, 2021 by Isaiah53six

[Bert Pieke 7,584]

8 hours ago, Doug47 said:

I’m in the same boat. I can’t justify using MSSS until it moves on from being nothing more then a flying bing images app. The flight simulation part is sorely lacking and badly broken with no sign of it improving any time soon. 

That  is simply not true.. if you have the system that will run it, you will be in for a positive surprise. 😀

Edited May 28, 2021 by Bert Pieke

[Bobsk8 12,679]

19 hours ago, Doug47 said:

Whats so horrible about it? That’s a very odd statement considering the flight dynamics of P3D and FSX are far superior to MSSS currently. ASOBO has a LOT of work to do to come anywhere close. 

I am a real world pilot as well as a long time simmer. The Mooney, the JF Arrow and the Seminole have pretty good flight dynamics, at least for me. But what do I know, I only have around 600 hours flying in RL... Flying in FSX and P3D is like flying over wallpaper, with printed and flattened scenery on it. 

Edited May 29, 2021 by Bobsk8

[RobF2 150]

Knew I was hooked on MSFS after doing a flight from Frasca field to Willard Champaign Urbana with intermittent storms about.  Wet taxiway and runway to start with, then a quick hop dodging around clouds, isolated downpours and the light slanting in through the clouds.  

Had to weave on approach to avoid clouds and maintain VFR.  

No add-ons I've ever tried in P3D can pull that off.  What a fantastic way we've come from Sublogic FS2 on the C64.  Absolutely unbelievable.

(if you're a flight sim enthusiast, just go and buy it - MSFS that is....)

Edited May 29, 2021 by RobF2

[MrGarak 10]

It depends on your use case, I hardly touch it right now, waiting for some better airliners and IMO a better camera system. I literally cannot stand using the current camera system, it is terrible.

It's a good platform and I'm excited to see what add-ons come out for it. But for now I'll stick to P3D and X-Plane.

[ThrottleUp 617]

4 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Flying in FSX and P3D is like flying over wallpaper, with printed and flattened scenery on it. 

This is precisely how I feel about photo scenery , I have always disliked it. Avoided "orthos" like the plague in X-Plane 11. I was apprehensive about getting MSFS when I realized the entire game relies on photoscenery from Bing wrapped on a 1:1 globe. I took the plunge and this photoscenery sceptic was pleasantly surprised. Yes it doesn't hold up when flying low and slow but it still looks very impressive. Personally I do not like the photogrammetry and keep that turned off. Happy with how it all looks now.

[heywooood 9]

MSFS with it's enumerated flaws is still miles ahead of every other civil flight sim (apples to apples) available today. In addition it will only get better - already exponentially better than it was on release with the regular technical and visual updates it has gotten.  

That said -if you have the disc space there's no reason to get rid of FSX - just keep it and run MSFS too. 

If I could I would have kept FSX because of what I have invested in it, but I had to make concessions when I replaced my old PC. 

If things hadn't gone pear shaped last year I would have not only kept FSX, but added P3D and MSFS, just to see what the differences are and to continue to enjoy the investments I've made to FSX. 

 

[threebears 14]

A final word on this: I have totally failed to buy a higher spec GPU from any normal source.  The word from a major supplier, where everything is marked  "Out of Stock" (and expected to be until next year!!) is that every high spec card is being hoovered up by bitcoin miners, and "scalpers" buying up to sell on at a vast mark-up.  Suppliers websites are even warning that there is no guarantee that an item selected for the shopping cart will still be there by the time you get to checkout. 

[Bobsk8 12,679]

4 hours ago, threebears said:

A final word on this: I have totally failed to buy a higher spec GPU from any normal source.  The word from a major supplier, where everything is marked  "Out of Stock" (and expected to be until next year!!) is that every high spec card is being hoovered up by bitcoin miners, and "scalpers" buying up to sell on at a vast mark-up.  Suppliers websites are even warning that there is no guarantee that an item selected for the shopping cart will still be there by the time you get to checkout. 

If you think everything is going to return to "normal" next years, I wish you luck. 

[Tierborn 188]

On 5/28/2021 at 7:47 AM, threebears said:

I'm at my twice yearly "shall I shan't I?" over moving from FSX-SE to another platform.  Having been put off P3D by issues I'm prevented from mentioning (LOL) I now am reconsidering MSFS 2020.  Everywhere I look there are complaints about failures to install, CTDs, bugs and so on.  I have 38mb/s broadband, and i7 quadcore CPU, 20MB RAM, a GTX1050ti GPU with 4MB memory and a newly installed 250MB SSD - all of which ought to be good enough (I think).

I'm going to lose quite a lot of paid-for FSX-SE add-ons (mostly P3D compatible) but is MSFS2020 now stable enough, and reliable enough to install, to make it worthwhile?  I'd rather not use Steam again, but should I go for disk or download?

  Without a doubt its worth it

[fppilot 4,360]

8 hours ago, threebears said:

A final word on this: I have totally failed to buy a higher spec GPU from any normal source.  The word from a major supplier, where everything is marked  "Out of Stock" (and expected to be until next year!!) is that every high spec card is being hoovered up by bitcoin miners, and "scalpers" buying up to sell on at a vast mark-up.  Suppliers websites are even warning that there is no guarantee that an item selected for the shopping cart will still be there by the time you get to checkout. 

Most of us, refusing to buckle to scalpers, share you pain.  Personally flying GA in true real time, and often IFR.....  Well, you likely know what sim I am flying most often.

[bean_sprout 1,201]

If you have to ask the question that way  then I would say no, not worth the hassle.   Stay with what you got.

Regards

bs

[RobF2 150]

Hey threebears, you should definitely do the $1 game pass trial and see what your performance is like.  I'd be willing to wager you'll manage "high" (not ultra) settings for most things and frame rates will exceed P3D/FSX significantly with eye candy you won't believe.  

I'm on a quad core I7 (4770) but with 1660Ti graphics card.  Fully expected to have to upgrade, but you may find you can put if off almost indefinitely if pleased with performance during trial period.

[gb09f 298]

I actually bought version 5 of SimulatorNotAllowed but switching to MSFS was a game changer for me. It's like a living, breathing world. 

[threebears 14]

4 hours ago, bean_sprout said:

If you have to ask the question that way  then I would say no, not worth the hassle.   Stay with what you got.

Regards

bs

Hi BS, I'm not sure what way I should have asked the question.  By framing it broadly I got useful advice from people who use a wide range of equipment, and with experience of various SIM platforms.