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New weird "Stutter" unexplained issue ( fixed)

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Since months now MSFS was ultra smooth ,no crashes no stutters and in general no problems. I had like 3 days to open MSFS and today i saw those weird yellow spikes on Developer mode preview.

Never had this issue before, and the weird part is that everything below the  main counter is solid green with out any spike ( MainThread, Manipulators, Coherent etc)

let me know if someone facing the same issue

thanks

Seth

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Fixed by changing performance mode to maximum ( nvidia control panel ) +  Disable Fullscreen optimization

weird things as since the latest MSFS and Nvidia updates i let everything to default 

 

 

 

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@Seth2021 In my version of W10 (20H2) Disable Full screen optimization is not an option. Reading about it, Windows took this out sometime ago. Are you running an older version of Windows, or did you hack it with 3rd party software, which is not recommended by MS?

Martin

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41 minutes ago, sauviat said:

@Seth2021 In my version of W10 (20H2) Disable Full screen optimization is not an option. Reading about it, Windows took this out sometime ago. Are you running an older version of Windows, or did you hack it with 3rd party software, which is not recommended by MS?

Martin

I have the latest version of Windows 10 and I still have this option. To disable full screen optimizations is advised in many guides and it can cure some of the stutters. No hacking or 3rd party software needed. It's just tick/untick kinda thing and one should use what gives the best performance.

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46 minutes ago, sauviat said:

@Seth2021 In my version of W10 (20H2) Disable Full screen optimization is not an option. Reading about it, Windows took this out sometime ago. Are you running an older version of Windows, or did you hack it with 3rd party software, which is not recommended by MS?

Martin

latest version of windows 10 here also, didnt use any hacking software etc. You just type on search : flightsimulator.exe and you have the MSFS file location to check properties. 

Since months now i didnt change anything , everything was default and never had any issue , MSFS was stable and solid. But yesterday i had this weird issue of yellow spikes

 

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15 hours ago, Seth2021 said:

Fixed by changing performance mode to maximum ( nvidia control panel ) +  Disable Fullscreen optimization

Which setting actually fixed it? If you change two at a time you'll never know... 

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7 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said:

Which setting actually fixed it? If you change two at a time you'll never know... 

i set maximum performance to default on nvidia control panel, and didn't have those spikes. So looks like disable full screen optimization made it. But again since the 2 latest nvidia drivers ( or WIndows 10 update) G-sync acts different on Multi-displays.

For example: when i had MSFS on my 1st main monitor and Simtoolkitpro/Navigraph charts, Pacx etc on the 2nd when i clicked on those applications, G-Sync was changed to default monitor refresh rate ( which is 144mhz on my monitor) which is normal as i dont focus anymore to the main G-sync monitor ( 1st main monitor)

Since the latest updates, when i click on those applications ( on the 2nd Monitor/No G-sync)  G-sync still works. The  Main Monitor  G-sync fps counter sync exactly with  MSFS fps...

So for sure something is changed in the latest updates...still trying to understand if its Nvidia , Windows 10 or MSFS update.

 

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I can't find 'disable full screen optimisation' now on my latest windows 10 update.  So I don't know how I could do that.  Performance is already at maximum in NVCP.

I have never had these issues you report anyway, so I am pretty much useless in this thread, but I am also just wondering if it was just a transient problem (maybe a background app or something updating in the background), as the changes you made to fix it don't seem to make a lot of sense.

I noticed leaving a browser open in the background caused something similar for me once many months ago.

In any case, I am glad you have fixed it, and I hope it doesn't come back!  :biggrin:

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Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind).

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Some months ago I carried this out and I remember now I had to go directly to the properties settings etc. I have already maximum performance mode selected. My CPU, GPU and Manipulators are all solid yellow!

Martin

 

Martin Parr

Retired professional yacht skipper for vessels up to 46m

 

System: Omen 40L GT13-0054na Gaming PC; Windows 11 Home  64-bit OS; Intel Core i9-10900K CPU @ 3.7GHz; RAM 32GB; Samsung S34J55x Monitor 3440x1440 @75 Hz Resolution; NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Ti. MSFS P/D; TM Pendular Rudder Pedals, TM Warthog Hortas Throttle/Joystick Combo.

19 hours ago, Seth2021 said:

Fixed by changing performance mode to maximum ( nvidia control panel ) +  Disable Fullscreen optimization

weird things as since the latest MSFS and Nvidia updates i let everything to default 

 

 

 

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What did you do to gain almost 20 FPS?

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34 minutes ago, z06z33 said:

What did you do to gain almost 20 FPS?

I think the first preview (63fps) was with a different aircraft + Terrain & Objects level of detail was at 200 ( Ultra settings). On 81fps preview i reduced both to 150.

I believe that changing settings on Nvidia control panel etc are just placebo effect. I had since months now everything to default and MSFS was ultra smooth, stable and solid.

I am sure this "weird" issue has to do with G-sync + Multi-display

 

 

 

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I just disabled "full screen optimisation" for MSFS (NVCP performance was already on maximum before) - and indeed, graphics is much smoother now without stutters! Amazing...! (Actual Win10, actual Nvidia driver, 2800RTX, 4k monitor, no G-sync etc., 8700k@5Ghz)

Edited by LarsA

Darn, these tweaks worked for me too. I was able to turn a lot of eye candy back on and don't have the strange mico stutters anymore. Bring on the 27th and I should be solid. 

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Didn't do anything for me,  no change whatsoever.

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