1 hour ago, Mace said:

I don't think anyone wants 100% accuracy.  But winds shifting from zero to 45 knots and then back to zero is a problem.  So are the temperatures.  You can't be 20degC all the way up to 40,000 feet.  These are bugs, not pleas for "accuracy" -- besides, there isn't 100% accuracy between forecasts vs. actual wx in the real world, either.

I’d at least like to tune into ATIS and get a somewhat accurate readout of current weather. But right now it’s always “few clouds at x, y and z feet” regardless of actual conditions.  This is a pretty egregious bug to not be addressed after almost a year.

Edited July 24, 20214 yr by Gilandred

I used to get that frequently years ago when flying into KPHX on very hot days. As I would transition from the land to an extended concrete apron I'd get slammed.  The difference in convection  currents from the sand/grass to the hot concrete was very noticeable. IIRC they had several NOTAMS about it.

6 hours ago, Mace said:

I don't think anyone wants 100% accuracy.  But winds shifting from zero to 45 knots and then back to zero is a problem.  So are the temperatures.  You can't be 20degC all the way up to 40,000 feet.  These are bugs, not pleas for "accuracy" -- besides, there isn't 100% accuracy between forecasts vs. actual wx in the real world, either.

The temperature bug that happened yesterday is not very common. That was definitely some kind of data corruption in the Live Weather feed. It has been several weeks since I last saw that happen, and I fly almost every day.

I am currently enroute from Detroit to Rapid City, SD in the Aerosoft CRJ at FL360. I just overflew Cedar Rapids, IA. Foreflight is giving GFS winds of 269 degrees at 69 knots. Temperature of -46C Live Weather is giving 270 at 64 knots and temperature of -43. Certainly close enough for me, considering that all aviation weather upper winds (no matter what the source) are based on predictive models, not actual observations. This is my experience 95 percent of the time. METAR Surface winds at DTW at takeoff were reporting 221 at 16, and that is exactly what Live Weather injected, and surface temperature and pressure were identical to the METAR (29C and 29.86).

Clouds (as usual) were a different matter. Actual METAR was reporting scattered at 5000 and broken at 9000. In the sim it was a lower overcast with rain and constant lightning.

The METAR for RAP is giving light and variable winds, so I do not expect Live Weather METAR wind there will be any specific direction. 

6 hours ago, JRBarrett said:

The temperature bug that happened yesterday is not very common. 

I had that bug today....been happening all week.  54C at FL220 ooofda.  The Longitude didn't want to climb at all lol (shocker)

Yesterday I had two flights with the WorkingTitle Cj4 and temperatures were absolutely normal. Between -58C and -61C SAT at FL450 

Flight planning in relation to weather is impossible. Sim weather doesn’t match any other platform such as Vatsim etc..

Classic Asobo, runs all the way to the finish line but stops feet from the end and says good enough! FFS. 

42 minutes ago, UAL4life said:

Flight planning in relation to weather is impossible. Sim weather doesn’t match any other platform such as Vatsim etc..

Classic Asobo, runs all the way to the finish line but stops feet from the end and says good enough! FFS. 

Had no idea Asobo had bad reputation with some people. I personally haven't heard of them until last year.

1 hour ago, UAL4life said:

Classic Asobo, runs all the way to the finish line but stops feet from the end and says good enough! FFS. 

What are you talking about?  They’ve acknowledged issues with the weather and have plans for an overhaul to address many shortcomings in an upcoming sim update.  If you can back up your statement where Asobo has said it’s “good enough” please do so.

5 hours ago, UAL4life said:

Flight planning in relation to weather is impossible. Sim weather doesn’t match any other platform such as Vatsim etc..

100% wrong

Edited July 25, 20214 yr by Jeeeno

A fundamental precept of anything that purports to be a Flight Simulator is accurate weather. While currently inept at this, Asobo and MS aren’t oblivious of the issue. They’ve drawn a line in the sand about opening up the sim to 3rd party Wx…. Which leaves them exposed and illuminated… hopefully they will stop the bleeding… soon.

Maybe MetoBlue will be concerned enough about their name on the tin to insist that Asobo bump this up on the priority list… fingers x’ed!

 

Edited July 25, 20214 yr by cavaricooper

1 hour ago, Jeeeno said:

100% wrong

Vatsim... You can pretend you are talking to absent controllers on MSFS too. Just talk on a Unicomm frequency. That is what I usually wound up doing when I flew on Vatsim. 😉

On 7/24/2021 at 9:16 AM, ar_0 said:

I understand, and I have experienced that myself during my years of flight simming. But the weather in the sim is inaccurate a lot of times. It wasn't a one-time thing (or a momentary thing).

I check a few, just to make sure I know what the weather is actually like. Examples are: aviationweahter, getmetar, metar-taf

Your not literally flying in real life its a sim.  The weather is inside the sim not outside.

On 7/25/2021 at 8:20 AM, Gilandred said:

What are you talking about?  They’ve acknowledged issues with the weather and have plans for an overhaul to address many shortcomings in an upcoming sim update.  If you can back up your statement where Asobo has said it’s “good enough” please do so.

Just tell them to go back to X-plane and P3D if MSFS20 is so bad.

On 7/23/2021 at 12:27 PM, vgbaron said:

IMHO it's really simple and dependent on your individual needs.

If all you care about is seeing some clouds and stuff when you fly, MSFS has beautiful weather.

If you are more concerned with accurate weather and winds, then I'm afraid MSFS is woefully inadequate

I think MSFS, with it's visual quality has generated a whole new class of simmer, the sightseer - they fly low and slow and enjoy taking in the beautiful scenery. A few clouds and shadows are a plus and basically eye candy. I believe it is this group that Asobo caters to.

Don't forget, we are really just now getting aircraft capable of accurately planning a flight and calculating fuel burn, time to climb, etc. Now that we have some of these, the shortcomings of Asobo weather are readily apparent.

Personally, I'd love to see them open up the weather system to 3pd's.

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I think that would make online flying difficult if everyone had different weather

On 7/26/2021 at 7:18 PM, Oldschool61 said:

Your not literally flying in real life its a sim.  The weather is inside the sim not outside.

I wouldn't like to bring this post up again, but I just read this.

I realize I'm in a sim. However, what makes it fun for me, and many others, is how close the sim, or any other sim, mimics real life. This is not the case for everyone of course. I'm speaking for myself, and I'm sure that others, who commented on this thread and elsewhere, feel the same way.

"Accurate"-ish weather adds to the realism and immersion, that's it. It's not necessary to sim. But it is necessary to some simmers.

If requesting "accurate" weather was unreasonable, not so many people would ask for it, if any. But we did have accurate weather in FSX. Any flight sim veteran has at least heard of Active Sky and their brilliant weather addon.

This sim isn't even close to that, or to other FSX weather engines, such as Opus. Again, I'm only speaking from my experience, and there are many others who've had a similar experience to mine, as illustrated in this very thread... and elsewhere.

If you enjoy the current state of the sim, good for you. I, on the other hand, would very much like to see improvements.