August 14, 20214 yr There is a large market for a quality 737 or 777 at $75. That market becomes a whole lot smaller at $140. It could be 10 to 20 times smaller at that price. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
August 14, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, arwasairl said: I'm going to stop you right there. In no world should a virtual airplane cost $500 for the home. I don't care if PMDG modelled the atomic structure of a wooden toy plane, or a 747 down to the proton. Don't buy it then, I can't afford a Ferrari either, but I do not cry myself to sleep for it. System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 64Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | Seasonic Vertex 1000W I LG Ultra Gear 34 UW I
August 14, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, Ixoye said: Don't buy it then, I can't afford a Ferrari either, but I do not cry myself to sleep for it. Trust me, people who can afford Ferraris won't even buy PMDG for $500 🤣🤣
August 14, 20214 yr 11 minutes ago, Ixoye said: Don't buy it then, I can't afford a Ferrari either, but I do not cry myself to sleep for it. Sorry, in the big picture, that's just not a good argument and a very short sighted statement. I think we're all aware of what we can buy and what we cannot or should not buy. These forums are where we can advocate for ourselves and others. There has to be some sort of market driving power available here, even if it does not change things. Edited August 14, 20214 yr by Jeff Nielsen Jeff D. Nielsen (KMCI) https://www.twitch.tv/pilotskcx https://discord.io/MaxDutyDay VENGEANCE a8200 Gaming PC: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D, GeForce RTX 5080, 64GB DDR5, 4TB (2TB/2TB) M.2 SSD, Win11 Pro
August 14, 20214 yr The argument for $75 pricing is that more casual gamers / simmers will be likely to check it out at that price, and many of those people will fly it a few times and then fly something easier when they realize the commitment and studying/reading involved. So those customers don’t really add to customer support demands in the long run. PMDG just sells more copies. Makes more money. And…the serious simmers who are going to learn to fly this thing are going to be happy customers that they got a great deal on a detailed add-on. Everyone wins at $75. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
August 14, 20214 yr 39 minutes ago, RobJC said: The argument for $75 pricing is that more casual gamers / simmers will be likely to check it out at that price, and many of those people will fly it a few times and then fly something easier when they realize the commitment and studying/reading involved. So those customers don’t really add to customer support demands in the long run. PMDG just sells more copies. Makes more money. And…the serious simmers who are going to learn to fly this thing are going to be happy customers that they got a great deal on a detailed add-on. Everyone wins at $75. Completely agree, it's the only thing that makes sense if you look at anything longer than short term. But I'd imagine it will take PMDG a bit to fully realize this, giving completely new products to customers for free will surely feel strange for them 😄 Even if they give people a $25 coupon, they will get those back plus $50 more when they release their next plane. Edited August 14, 20214 yr by rka Laminar Research customer -- Asobo/MS customer -- not an X-Aviation customer - or am I? 😉
August 14, 20214 yr It'll probably be a little over 100$ so they still make a bit of additional money while not being over the top expensive for new customers. Edited August 14, 20214 yr by tweekz Happy with MSFS 🙂 home simming evolved
August 14, 20214 yr Those who buy will know what they are buying, the rest are probably happy with what Careanado has to offer. System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 64Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | Seasonic Vertex 1000W I LG Ultra Gear 34 UW I
August 14, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, RobJC said: There is a large market for a quality 737 or 777 at $75. That market becomes a whole lot smaller at $140. It could be 10 to 20 times smaller at that price. I tend to agree. Most releases by other addon devs have been slightly-much cheaper for MSFS than they were in P3D. I doubt I'll buy it anyway as I just don't have the time to fly anymore. If I did have the time I'd consider it but not at 140 USD. I like how they initially priced their DC6... it was a lot less than I (and others) thought. I would expect the NG to cost a little more though. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
August 14, 20214 yr 32 minutes ago, Ixoye said: Those who buy will know what they are buying, the rest are probably happy with what Careanado has to offer. There are a lot of users who fall in between PMDG study level and Carenado level. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
August 14, 20214 yr 33 minutes ago, RobJC said: There are a lot of users who fall in between PMDG study level and Carenado level. That would be the likes of Aerosoft and their airliners are in the 50-65$ range. If some folks are expecting to get a PMDG 737 for under 100$ than they are in for a major letdown. That's just my opinion Edited August 14, 20214 yr by jbdbow1970
August 14, 20214 yr 9 hours ago, RobJC said: I won’t be paying $140 for any add-on. they could price it at 150 $ minus your 99$ credit, and for new customers offer an introductory time-limited special rebate "because-we-are-such-a-nice-company" promo code so that everybody ends up paying no more than 50 $ or whatever. but only while supplies last. 😊 marketing is flexible. Edited August 14, 20214 yr by turbomax AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
August 14, 20214 yr 58 minutes ago, RobJC said: the rest are probably happy with what Careanado has to offer. and Matt Nischan and the travelling WorkingTitles band, I assume we will see upgrades to the 747/787/A320 FMC/autopilot in the future just as for the CJ4, paid for by MS/Asobo. AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
August 14, 20214 yr 10 hours ago, Nyxx said: Then the people who bought the NGu were over charged. I can sort of see how some people would think that. I purchased the NGXu in the first week and only bought it because of the credit deal. The credit was stated to be only for the NG3, if the NG3 didn't cover all the credit then it is what it is, I still have used a fully upgraded NGX for more than 24 months so I don't see any loss in value there AND I would be getting the NG3 for free. Again, I could kind of see how someone would be upset, but if you actually used the NGXu instead of using it as a strange kind of pre-order for the NG3 then you couldn't possibly be bothered. P3Dv4 + XP11 MFS
August 14, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, turbomax said: and Matt Nischan and the travelling WorkingTitles band, I assume we will see upgrades to the 747/787/A320 FMC/autopilot in the future just as for the CJ4, paid for by MS/Asobo. That's how I conclude my prayers every night since I first flew the CJ4 😛 Laminar Research customer -- Asobo/MS customer -- not an X-Aviation customer - or am I? 😉
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