August 14, 20214 yr To be honest that was a kind of wrong strategy from PMDG to give these kind of promises at the beginning. Sure they didn’t expect MSFS to have a large user base and thus they expected it will be more or less like P3D, less sales but more pricy. Now the fact is, especially with Fenix that expected to be in a moderate price and you have great freeware that everyday getting better like WT and FBW, normal consumer would question, would I spend 140$ whereby I can get something similar to 737 but for free or cheaper? But to be honest, I wouldn’t be surprised if they just price it at 99$ and is for free for those who bought the NG on P3D. But let’s see, the release is not far Edited August 14, 20214 yr by omarsmak30 AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 64GB DDR5 6000MHZ RAM, RX7900XT, FreeSync 165hz 1440p display
August 14, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, abrams_tank said: Yeah, I'm not sure how that is going to work either. The Aerosoft CRJ is $50 and the PMDG DC-6 is $55 - and these two are the most expensive planes in MSFS so far. $140 would just make the 737 for MSFS look ultra expensive in comparison. They will raise the price for the DC-6. It will be 59.99. 55 was a discounted price. I think they will do it tomorrow when the P3D sale ends. 9800X3D@H150i // Msi RTX 5090 Trio OC // 64GB DDR5 6000mhz CL30 // 2TB + 1TB Nvme Dell 27" 2127DGF - 1440p - Gsync - 165hz Thrustmaster TCA Sidestick Airbus // TCA Quadrant Airbus // TFRP T.Flight Rudder Pedals // Logitech Flight Multi Panel
August 14, 20214 yr I won’t be paying $140 for any add-on. The entire sim didn’t cost that much. I am in the < $60 buy zone. But to each their own. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
August 14, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, kaha said: Or they could have said nothing at all and wait until release time. Actually, as I get it if the NG3 is released I can get the P3D version and pay the rest for the MSFS version. The P3D version is literally a giveaway then, isn't it? Nice! Karl NO.....No.. it was an offer for a month, then it stoped. DONT buy it now. David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
August 14, 20214 yr You have to remember the context - at the time they were explaining to people how much work had gone into rebuilding the NGX in P3D with everything they'd learned in the 777 and other previous builds. As much as people were looking forward to it (major P3D upgrade to existing 737 model) most people were still in 2 minds about paying for the 737 AGAIN (most had bought it already at least once before). Also nobody new when MSFS would finally drop and how good it would be, let alone when PMDG would port existing aircraft over. So in the at environment, convincing people they wouldn't be paying for it yet again in MSFS when it was eventually ready probably seemed like a good idea for first few weeks the NGu was on sale.
August 14, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, RobJC said: I won’t be paying $140 for any add-on. The entire sim didn’t cost that much. I am in the < $60 buy zone. But to each their own. Uh, Rob, you have an Nvidia 3080. I mean if you're gonna pay $1,000 over the MSRP for a GPU I feel like an extra $80 for a study level sim isn't farfetched lol. No offense buddy just poking fun. Take-offs are optional, landings are mandatory.The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire. To make a small fortune in aviation you must start with a large fortune.There's nothing less important than the runway behind you and the altitude above you. It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground.
August 14, 20214 yr 26 minutes ago, RobF2 said: So in the at environment, convincing people they wouldn't be paying for it yet again in MSFS when it was eventually ready probably seemed like a good idea for first few weeks the NGu was on sale. Yeah, it made sense for PMDG at the time, but now they’ve really boxed themselves in on MSFS price, having failed to anticipate that the anchor point for addon prices was going to be much lower than for P3D. As others have pointed out, the lowest they can charge now (barring a credit/refund) is $99.99. That also seems to be the highest they can go, based on the market. So they have zero flexibility. I expect the price to be exactly $99.99. If I’m RSR, here’s the potential scenario that keeps me up at night. Let’s say Fenix release their A320 a month before the 737, at $75 or $80. It’s immediately hailed by all as the biggest step forward in flightsimming since PMDG’s original 747 15 years ago. It breaks new ground on all fronts. The 737, meanwhile, is very nice, but RSR knows it’s not at that once-in-a-generation level; maybe it’s 85% of the quality. So now what do you do? You’re left with no choice but to release a product your customers are going to see as 15% less value, for 20% higher price. That’s…not a great spot to be in. James
August 14, 20214 yr PMDG and the word FREE in the same title..........my eye glasses must be dirty or my wine glass must be empty 😂
August 14, 20214 yr Watch as the customers (entitled to the original discount) of the NGXu will get the yet-to-be-released GFO for free or at heavy discount. 😂 Meanwhile, the NG3 will be sold at USD 100+ Edited August 14, 20214 yr by SAS443 EASA PPL SEPL + NQ / CB-IR in progress MSFS24 | X-Plane 12
August 14, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, WestAir said: Uh, Rob, you have an Nvidia 3080. I mean if you're gonna pay $1,000 over the MSRP for a GPU I feel like an extra $80 for a study level sim isn't farfetched lol. No offense buddy just poking fun. All good. But I didn’t pay $1000 over MSRP for this card. It was purchased as part of a new PC build for $2600, which was maybe $300 over normal prices. And my last PC was built in 2013, so i was due for an upgrade. But i do hear you on that point. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
August 14, 20214 yr Author 4 hours ago, Nyxx said: Well, thats the can of worms, when people took up PMDG on the offer to buy the NGu the main selling point was, if you bought it now every penny you spend will be credited for the MSFS version. Since then we all know MSFS was coming. So really it was a good deal. But if they now sold the NG3 for ....less say $75. Then the people who bought the NGu were over charged. Am not sure the $25 more you paid is gone in the wind would go down very well. I think without knowing PMDG have put themself in a funny spot. They could just say you have a $25 credit to spend with us on anything else, at any time. That also would be fine, but i think it might not be lawfull to not have the option to refund. Just talking and thinking, nothing more as none of us know what will happen. It will be fun to see what the price is and how Robert will handle it. Yeah, the wording by Randazzo by using "full credit" would seem to imply that the purchasers of the NGXu deserve some type of credit if the price of the MSFS 737 is less than $99.99. I think when Randazzo made that quote, he didn't consider that prices for MSFS add-ons would be so much lower than P3D. You are right that Randazzo put himself in a bad spot. i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
August 14, 20214 yr I'm not buying any addon that costs more than the simulator itself. AMD Ryzen R9 9950X3D | Asus Astral RTX 5080 OC | 32 GB DDR5 6000 CL30 | 3440x1440 G-Sync | Logitech Pro Throttles Rudder Yoke Panels | Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS | TrackIR 5 | Oculus Rift S
August 14, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Republic3D said: I'm not buying any addon that costs more than the simulator itself. Isn't the Premium Deluxe version $119.99 USD right now? Take-offs are optional, landings are mandatory.The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire. To make a small fortune in aviation you must start with a large fortune.There's nothing less important than the runway behind you and the altitude above you. It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground.
August 14, 20214 yr I think you guys are over-thinking this, a bit. The NG3 is/was $100 when announced for an upcoming release for P3D. Those who paid the $100 at the time of the announcement of the NG3, for a limited time, will get the NG3 when released and, as a bonus and incentive, get the NG3 for MSFS at no additional cost (up to $100); whenever that occurs, if ever. A wise move? IDK. I jumped on it. I wanted to support PMDG (they were incentivizing my parting with cash before the P3D version was released) and, if MSFS came about (it did), I'd be gifted an aircraft by supporting PMDG when they were a little cash-short. It was a limited time offer based on conjuncture about the not yet seen MSFS centered around a yet to be released new version of the 737 for P3D. The wording could have been different, but essentially saying you'll get this aircraft for MSFS for free up to $100 purchase price. Now, it seems a price beyond $100 is unlikely and probably somewhat less than $100. This does not in any form or way suggest a credit for any price less than $100. Edited August 14, 20214 yr by RichieFly I hate typos Richard Chafey i7-8700K @4.8GHz - 32Gb @3200 - ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero - EVGA RTX3090 - 3840x2160 Res - KBSim Gunfighter - Thrustmaster Warthog dual throttles - Crosswind V3 pedals MSFS 2020, DCS
August 14, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, WestAir said: Isn't the Premium Deluxe version $119.99 USD right now? I don't know, it was around €100 - €110 when I bought it I think. AMD Ryzen R9 9950X3D | Asus Astral RTX 5080 OC | 32 GB DDR5 6000 CL30 | 3440x1440 G-Sync | Logitech Pro Throttles Rudder Yoke Panels | Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS | TrackIR 5 | Oculus Rift S
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