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LOD Popping and Stutter when Camera Panning

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22 minutes ago, iFlySimX said:

It's crazy to see all these different answers about locking frames and GSYNC....I wish I would know which is the best answer hahaha.

Sorry if i did not see it, but a quick look through all the pagers I did not see if you have a "real" GSync Monitor or one like mine that has a GSync sticker on it but its not a "real" GSync monitor.

Is your a "real" one or not? Becasue as i know there is a masive diffrence from a "real" one and a "compatable" one.

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8 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

Sorry if i did not see it, but a quick look through all the pagers I did not see if you have a "real" GSync Monitor or one like mine that has a GSync sticker on it but its not a "real" GSync monitor.

Is your a "real" one or not? Becasue as i know there is a masive diffrence from a "real" one and a "compatable" one.

Wow!  I need to understand this as I am looking at getting a G-Sync monitor.  How does the 'compatible' one affect you Dave?

It seems difficult to find a decent 4k, 27-28 inch G-sync monitor anyway at the moment, so I might have to postpone my search for a bit.

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22 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

Sorry if i did not see it, but a quick look through all the pagers I did not see if you have a "real" GSync Monitor or one like mine that has a GSync sticker on it but its not a "real" GSync monitor.

Is your a "real" one or not? Becasue as i know there is a masive diffrence from a "real" one and a "compatable" one.

https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-xg279q-model/

Certified NVIDIA G−SYNC Compatible
Delivers a seamless, tear-free gaming experience by enabling VRR by default on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 10-Series and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 20-Series graphics cards.

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24 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

Wow!  I need to understand this as I am looking at getting a G-Sync monitor.  How does the 'compatible' one affect you Dave?

It seems difficult to find a decent 4k, 27-28 inch G-sync monitor anyway at the moment, so I might have to postpone my search for a bit.

Its simple, A true "real" G-Sync screen has built in hardwear and they cost more. They can G-sync down to around 20 FPS. Ian has a real one 

Mine is a "Compatible" and when i looked closely at the spec on my G7, G-Sync does not work untill am above 68 FPS. Yer thats right...a waste of time. I know this before I bough it, so I dont care. But just becasue it has a big green sticker in the corner say its "G-sync monitor" means nothing.

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8 minutes ago, iFlySimX said:

https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-xg279q-model/

Certified NVIDIA G−SYNC Compatible
Delivers a seamless, tear-free gaming experience by enabling VRR by default on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 10-Series and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 20-Series graphics cards.

Not got the time to really look into you screen but given its price Its not a "real" one, My G7 was £650 and thats not real, there normaly £800plus for a real one, so all the info you have been given is worth...boo.

I will try and find the time later. 

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@bobcat999 The Eye starts rotating when I approach but the buildings look OK to me... try Objects LOD 9.0, it doesn't cost many fps.

 

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1 minute ago, Nyxx said:

Not got the time to really look into you screen but given its price Its not a "real" one, My G7 was £650 and thats not real, there normaly £800plus for a real one, so all the info you have been given is worth...boo.

I will try and find the time later. 

word not allowed ok. When you have a min, could you please let me know how I should set this up exactly? Should I lock my FPS if so where etc...THANK YOU!

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"Gsync compatible" means the monitor has VRR/Freesync and Nvidia enables usage of the VRR/Freesync via the Control Panel Gsync checkbox.

A monitor that has VRR/Freesync, but is not Nvidia certified, will not offer the checkbox to enable Gsync in the Nvidia Control Panel.

A "real" Gsync monitor (not "Gsync compatible") has extra hardware which the other two don't.

My 4k 27" monitor has amd freesync and is gsync compatible, but I don't use the feature because the Nvidia implementation is not good. Its flickery in some games etc. - when I use it with an AMD card, it has zero issues when using VRR/Freesync. Issue is only there when using it with a Nvidia card.

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2 minutes ago, iFlySimX said:

word not allowed ok. When you have a min, could you please let me know how I should set this up exactly? Should I lock my FPS if so where etc...THANK YOU!

Sure, do you use TrackIR?..later...your PC spec is the same as mine, so easy really..

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2 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

Sure, do you use TrackIR?..later...

No...I am also on Discord if it's easier to chat. 

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4 minutes ago, iFlySimX said:

word not allowed ok. When you have a min, could you please let me know how I should set this up exactly? Should I lock my FPS if so where etc...THANK YOU!

If you (like me) don't have a G-Sync certified / Ultimate monitor, the best thing to do is switch to 60 Hz refresh rate before launching the sim. If you use GSync at higher refresh rates, brightness will flicker when you have microstuttering.

Do not limit fps from nVidia control panel or external tools, just set VSync on and 60 fps limit in MSFS settings.

Also make sure that GSync is enabled in nVidia CP.

 

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4 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said:

@bobcat999 The Eye starts rotating when I approach but the buildings look OK to me... try Objects LOD 9.0, it doesn't cost many fps.

Thanks - I will certainly give it a go!

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1 minute ago, MrFuzzy said:

If you (like me) don't have a G-Sync certified / Ultimate monitor, the best thing to do is switch to 60 Hz refresh rate before launching the sim. If you use GSync at higher refresh rates, brightness will flicker when you have microstuttering.

Do not limit fps from nVidia control panel or external tools, just set VSync on and 60 fps limit in MSFS settings.

Also make sure that GSync is enabled in nVidia CP.

 

Thanks! Just another option to add to the list 🙂 I am going to need to do a LOT of testing. 

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15 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

Its simple, A true "real" G-Sync screen has built in hardwear and they cost more. They can G-sync down to around 20 FPS. Ian has a real one 

Mine is a "Compatible" and when i looked closely at the spec on my G7, G-Sync does not work untill am above 68 FPS. Yer thats right...a waste of time. I know this before I bough it, so I dont care. But just becasue it has a big green sticker in the corner say its "G-sync monitor" means nothing.

Thanks for that info Dave.  It seems that a 'compatible' one would be no use for me then.

I can easily do 30 fps, but not quite 60, so my plan was to limit at around 45 through something like RTSS and match it to a G-Sync monitor, as obviously I only have the 30 or 60 option at the moment.

If these 'compatible' ones don't kick-in until about 68 fps, it would be no use to me.  Looks like you saved me some more money! :smile:

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1 hour ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Why would you lock frames if you have a G-Sync monitor? It defeats the purpose of the thing. 

No it doesn't. I have a gsync monitor and If I don't lock my frames in the sim, I will still get high fps but every once in a while or if I go to dense areas the fps counter will turn red which causes stutters. With it locked, no matter how much the fps goes down the bar will still be green and it will still be smooth 

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