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LOD Popping and Stutter when Camera Panning

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1 hour ago, somiller said:

Only if you want to lock at 30, which with your specs doesn't make sense. If you want to try vsync with Gsync then turn on vsync in NVIDIA CP so you can stay with your 40 - 45 fps lock in NVCP.

Thats not how gsync works. If you notice, when he locked his fps to 30 in the sim he was getting a steady 60 fps. Unlike locking in NVIDIA which is capping at 45. 

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43 minutes ago, devgrp said:

I have a 165hz G-sync monitor. With mine locked at 30 my gsync always works 

 

Locked at 30 you are guaranteed that Gsync will kick in as the minimum native frame rate of most 165 HZ monitors is down around 48 FPS the same sort of minimum you get with 144hz monitors.

The figure of 30 is the "magic number" for 60 hz old school monitors with a native minimum of 30 hz and no gsync/freesync. 

On a 165hz GSync monitor 30 FPS is fine of course - but so is 25 FPS or 50 FPS or anything else you think is optimal for your own use use case.

TLDR - do not get too fixated on 30  FPS, on your monitor 28 FPS or 36 FPS or any other number that your game is capable of sustaining will work.

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5 hours ago, devgrp said:

I have a 165hz G-sync monitor. With mine locked at 30 my gsync always works 

if you have 165hz monitor and locked on MSFS at v-sync 30 you have a frame cap at 82.5  

i guess your monitor has fps counter. You could enable and check if g-sync is working ( monitor fps will be synchronized with msfs fps).

At least on my Asus G-Sync PG27Q ( 165ghz) G-sync is only working when Msfs v-sync is at 60 or off. 

 

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20 hours ago, iFlySimX said:

So this is my performance with settings mixed between ULTRA & HIGH with a terrain LOD of 5 and object LOD of 3. 

What's really heavy on the CPU is terrain LOD.

After many tests I think I found the sweet spot for my system: terrain LOD 3 and objects LOD 9. This limits the pop-in and morphing a lot, while keeping good framerates and preventing stuttering when I pan the view.

I play with VSync and GSync on, limited at 60 fps. I removed the limits for performance measurement purposes only.

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Ah all you people talking about Terrain LOD of 3, 4, 5, or even 6 - I'm on LOD 1.4 🤣 (so 140 on the silder) as going beyond that means I drop from 30 towards 20 FPS. Still a hell of a lot better than pre-SU5 though. Honestly I don't know what you're doing for a living, but I am evidently in the wrong job!

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@MrFuzzy I have Orbx London and London City Airport installed.  Orbx London scenery is the Asobo UK update compatible version.

I am at LOD 300 / 300, but when I take off from London City flying west towards Heathrow, as I go past the Canary Wharf buildings (HSBC etc.) they change from one type to the other in front of my eyes, which is a bit immersion breaking to say the least! :smile:

I estimate it is from about 1/4 mile range.  I think they are changing from Asobo default to Orbx.  although the cable cars across the Thames are alright, and moving, so the Orbx pack is definitely installed alright.  I also notice the London Eye changes at short range, and goes from static to rotating in front of my eyes (also from about a 1/4 mile).

This has happened since SU5 - all good beforehand.  I just wonder if you are seeing these issues? 

PS.  London City Airport is fine, with the Orbx static aircraft etc.

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29 minutes ago, ckyliu said:

Ah all you people talking about Terrain LOD of 3, 4, 5, or even 6 - I'm on LOD 1.4 🤣 (so 140 on the silder) as going beyond that means I drop from 30 towards 20 FPS. Still a hell of a lot better than pre-SU5 though. Honestly I don't know what you're doing for a living, but I am evidently in the wrong job!

Matter of priority ...

My RTX 3070 cost me the equivalent in Australia of:

  • 16 packets of cigarettes  - or
  • 3 bottles of 16 yo Glen Livet - or
  • 5 hours real time flying - or
  • roughly the annual registration of my motorcycle which I rarely get around to riding - or
  • 10 tanks of fuel for my car - or
  • 3 days accommodation at the beach for two people
  • 16 x 1kg packs of steaks - or
  • one 3 month instalment of council rates on my apartment

For me it was money well spent even though I had to budget to afford it.

Mind you the 3070s have doubled in price since I bought mine in December 2020 but I still would get one even at the current pricing.

42 minutes ago, ckyliu said:

Ah all you people talking about Terrain LOD of 3, 4, 5, or even 6 - I'm on LOD 1.4 🤣 (so 140 on the silder) as going beyond that means I drop from 30 towards 20 FPS. Still a hell of a lot better than pre-SU5 though. Honestly I don't know what you're doing for a living, but I am evidently in the wrong job!

It's all about priorities. 🙂 That being said, I just finished paying down my 3090, and I bought it in December 2020. I was looking for a 3080, but they were impossible to find. 

Anyways, I'm glad people with more normal hardware are able to enjoy the sim better now after SU5.

Now, if they only would give us more sliders for those who bought a NASA computer... that would be great.

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16 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

@MrFuzzy I have Orbx London and London City Airport installed.  Orbx London scenery is the Asobo UK update compatible version.

I am at LOD 300 / 300, but when I take off from London City flying west towards Heathrow, as I go past the Canary Wharf buildings (HSBC etc.) they change from one type to the other in front of my eyes, which is a bit immersion breaking to say the least! :smile:

I estimate it is from about 1/4 mile range.  I think they are changing from Asobo default to Orbx.  although the cable cars across the Thames are alright, and moving, so the Orbx pack is definitely installed alright.  I also notice the London Eye changes at short range, and goes from static to rotating in front of my eyes (also from about a 1/4 mile).

This has happened since SU5 - all good beforehand.  I just wonder if you are seeing these issues? 

PS.  London City Airport is fine, with the Orbx static aircraft etc.

I will try now and let you know.

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Why would you lock frames if you have a G-Sync monitor? It defeats the purpose of the thing. 

22 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

I am at LOD 300 / 300, but when I take off from London City flying west towards Heathrow, as I go past the Canary Wharf buildings (HSBC etc.) they change from one type to the other in front of my eyes, which is a bit immersion breaking to say the least! 

This happens in a lot of third party scenery since they changed something in SU5, and it’s up to the third party devs to fix their files, apparently. 
I also have exactly the same issue at ORBX EGNT. I can’t see it being fixed anytime soon. 

1 minute ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

This happens in a lot of third party scenery since they changed something in SU5, and it’s up to the third party devs to fix their files, apparently. 
I also have exactly the same issue at ORBX EGNT. I can’t see it being fixed anytime soon. 

Thanks for confirming Ian.  I also saw it with the free Orbx Taipei scenery last night, so it seems to be consistent like you say.

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It's crazy to see all these different answers about locking frames and GSYNC....I wish I would know which is the best answer hahaha.

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18 minutes ago, iFlySimX said:

It's crazy to see all these different answers about locking frames and GSYNC....I wish I would know which is the best answer hahaha.

You could make your own tests and check which option  is the best for you. If your monitor is "true" G-Sync ultimate there is no reason to have any in-game v-sync enabled or lock/cap frames.

The only reason that i cap frames sometimes is just to relax my 3090  from overworking all the time for high frames ( 80-90s)

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I'm experimenting with locking frames for two reasons

1 - Temps, my PC is in the conservatory, so ambient temps can be high.

2 - Frame times, it seems to me that locking at in-game vsync 20 (1/3 frames, so 48fps on my 144hz screen) yields a more stable experience.

sure at high altitudes 100+ fps is great, but its only going to come down when I fly into big hubs.

 

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