PMDG DC6

[Bobsk8 13,200]

25 minutes ago, elcaro said:

I could never get used to flying sim aircraft that I knew had yokes IRL using a joystick - just killed any semblance of immersion for me.

I fully agree that all the plastic-fantastic el cheapo yokes out there, and I've tried them all over the years - CH, Thrustmaster, Logitech...yada, yada - I learned to hate those too.  None of them come even close to being acceptable, with their slop, dragginess, and general poor contruction.

But my Virtual-Fly Yoko+ yoke is a game-changer.  I admit that axis travel is still a bit more "springy" than I'd like, unlike a yoke in a real aircraft.  But all movement is butter-smooth through the extent of both axes, and with its Hall Effect Sensors, it's quite good.  Mine's mounted on the Playseat Air Force I use for simming - all I have on my desk is my keyboard and 3 28" monitors with the sim spread across them.

Wow, I have bought cars that didn't cost that much. 😊

[Mike S KPDX 599]

Hey guys, I dont own the '6' but was just curious if anyone here has recreated the WWII 'hump' flights from China? or the Berlin Airlift stuff, just curious.

Thanks

[Steve Dra 7,675]

57 minutes ago, Mike S KPDX said:

Hey guys, I dont own the '6' but was just curious if anyone here has recreated the WWII 'hump' flights from China? or the Berlin Airlift stuff, just curious.

Thanks

ohhh....those would be cool to recreate somehow.  I know "someone" painted a few USAF birds that could do the Berlin airlift. 😏  They were actually C54s that did the Airlift as the DC-6 came after it was over.   These would be pretty close representatives though. 🙂 

 

[eslader 1,868]

On 8/26/2021 at 6:49 PM, mpw8679 said:

I like to simulate current day airliners.

I'm in the same boat as you. I have all the PMDG stuff for p3d/fsx except the DC6. But then awhile back I got the A2A Constellation on a lark and... Hey, these old propliners are pretty fun!  That made it easy to pull the trigger on the DC6 day 1 for MSFS.  Overall I prefer the Connie; I think it's a little better done, but that's not to say the PMDG product isn't stellar. It is!  Kind of the difference between Lexus and Acura. Both great products, and it's gonna come down to personal preference, and since the Connie isn't even available for MSFS, that makes the decision a lot easier. 😉

I have no regrets buying the DC6, and would do it again. It's definitely a much higher level of simulation than anything else currently available in MSFS, and I'll almost certainly still be flying it even after PMDG, Leonardo, and the other high-level devs get all their jets into MSFS.

 

[toby23 141]

I've been reading on the PMDG forums and apparently there is an FPS issue with SU5 cutting people's performance in half?! I think I'll wait until that gets ironed out. Whatever anyone might say, I like 45-60 fps as the panning around the cockpit is much smoother than at 30fps.

[Glenn Fitzpatrick 3,799]

4 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Wow, I have bought cars that didn't cost that much. 😊

 

True however Flight Sim gear lasts a lot longer then a cheap second hand car and you spend a lot more time on it then you would driving that car for most people.

[webstef68 58]

8 hours ago, Mike S KPDX said:

Hey guys, I dont own the '6' but was just curious if anyone here has recreated the WWII 'hump' flights from China? or the Berlin Airlift stuff, just curious.

Thanks

Berlin airlift was in my plans but i couldn’t find the information from which airport the planes took off, if someone can help here 🙂

[webstef68 58]

18 hours ago, orchestra_nl said:

It might be. It's probably best to assign the left- and  middle lever to the left and right engines  and use the third lever for Prop. Mixture hardly needs to be changed in flight so you can use the virtual one.

I didn’t map the mixtures but i did map the carb heaters. I don’t understand why the afe leaves them in the « freezing zone » when looking on the tablet, if i give a tad of heat and they become green ?

[Dominique_K 10,157]

1 hour ago, webstef68 said:

Berlin airlift was in my plans but i couldn’t find the information from which airport the planes took off, if someone can help here 🙂

Rhein-Main, Wiesbaden, Fassberg, and Celle

See for more infos :  https://amcmuseum.org/history/operation-vittles-berlin-airlift/

 

[Dominique_K 10,157]

11 hours ago, Mike S KPDX said:

Hey guys, I dont own the '6' but was just curious if anyone here has recreated the WWII 'hump' flights from China? 

I did flights from Eastern Assam to Diqing and Kunming but not yet with the 6.

A good weather briefing is useful as the Himalayas could have an overcast, specially with monsoon clouds, and then you don’t see much and the landing in Diqing becomes problematic.

 

[Bdub22 1,738]

9 hours ago, toby23 said:

I've been reading on the PMDG forums and apparently there is an FPS issue with SU5 cutting people's performance in half?! I think I'll wait until that gets ironed out. Whatever anyone might say, I like 45-60 fps as the panning around the cockpit is much smoother than at 30fps.

Depending on setup, there has been some weird stuff happening with everything after SU5. I can only speak for myself. The PMDG DC-6 is probably the best 3PD aircraft you can buy right now. I know there are a lot of different options and some are quite good. Even the freeware guys are close to outshining the commercial developers (looking at you Working Title, FBW). But I really have never bought a bad airplane from PMDG, and I’ve been forking over my card to them since Fly! 2k. 
 

You won’t be upset with it. Even if you’re a jet tube-liner guy, you said you wanted study level. As of right now, with MSFS, this is the closest you’ll get for the time being. 

[robcap 81]

9 hours ago, toby23 said:

I've been reading on the PMDG forums and apparently there is an FPS issue with SU5 cutting people's performance in half?! I think I'll wait until that gets ironed out. Whatever anyone might say, I like 45-60 fps as the panning around the cockpit is much smoother than at 30fps.

No, that is not the case. I have around 45 fps in the cockpit.

Intitially, during testing, PMDG had much better results, but in the final release of SU5 this was not implemented.

I still have te same fps in the DC6 as in any other plane.

[Bobsk8 13,200]

10 hours ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

 

True however Flight Sim gear lasts a lot longer then a cheap second hand car and you spend a lot more time on it then you would driving that car for most people.

My guess is that my Thrustmaster T16000M will last just as long.😉

[Bobsk8 13,200]

4 hours ago, robcap said:

No, that is not the case. I have around 45 fps in the cockpit.

Intitially, during testing, PMDG had much better results, but in the final release of SU5 this was not implemented.

I still have te same fps in the DC6 as in any other plane.

According to PMDG, the FPS were cut way down in SU5 compared to what the pre release showed. Most are getting a bit above 30 FPS after SU5. There is supposed to be a fix they are working on which will boost FPS way up. My FPS are much lower with the DC6 than the other payware aircraft I have. I still can lock on 30 FPS which is fine. Out of the cockpit I get around 60 FPS. 

[Glenn Fitzpatrick 3,799]

14 hours ago, Steve Dra said:

ohhh....those would be cool to recreate somehow.  I know "someone" painted a few USAF birds that could do the Berlin airlift. 😏  They were actually C54s that did the Airlift as the DC-6 came after it was over.   These would be pretty close representatives though. 🙂 

Yeah, the hump flights were all variants of the DC3 or it's immediate predecessors as well.

The DC6 is too post war really.

There was actually at least one DC6 involved in the evacuation in South Vietnam:

https://library.utdallas.edu/specialcollections/hac/cataam/Leeker/history/Vietnam3.pdf (bottom of page 4) 

Quote

“A C-46 was equipped to carry 51 people, but a pilot came out of Pleiku carrying 142 fully armed combat troops […]. The C47s, which usually carried a maximum of 30, took on as many as 80 people. Bird Air flew a DC-6 on an evacuation flight and reported 340 people on it.”