27 minutes ago, David Mills said:

They won't admit that they should gracefully go into retirement

happened also to the most famous opera diva of all time: Maria Callas. in her late years, opera directors had to tell the once undisputed goddess of opera: stop, no encore! no more please! sad but true story.

Edited September 26, 20214 yr by turbomax

1 hour ago, Murmur said:

An absolute secondary and minor detail, but if you pay attention, you'll see that the ground vehicles will roll, squat and dive when turning, accelerating and braking:

And tires squish when braking!

Edited September 26, 20214 yr by RXP

28 minutes ago, David Mills said:

X-Plane 12 reminds me of what frequently occurs with prizefighters who have passed their prime. They won't admit that they should gracefully go into retirement. No. They schedule one last fight where they embarrassingly get the life beat out of them. 

The only embarassing thing I see is your comment. 🤣

2 years ago, a lot of people (likely including you and some of the MFS fan...s / XP 8ers participating in this thread) were boldly declaring that XP was dead, last nail in the coffin for XP, etc.

Now, after the presentation, I think it's clear that XP is (and will be) far from dead. You all, already did an embarassing figure with those unfounded predictions that turned out to be far from truth. But if you want to embarass yourself with other similar predictions, go on! 🤣

 

 

37 minutes ago, David Mills said:

I didn't realize that the autogen's selection of structure-type was weather-dependent.

The clouds here are also no existent, but since that bit you cut off in the corner actually says scenery rather than weather, I wasn't surprised.

I don't understand. X-Plane 12 can't do weather and scenery simultaneously? I must be missing something.

 

Just now, David Mills said:

I don't understand. X-Plane 12 can't do weather and scenery simultaneously? I must be missing something.

 

different authors work on different things, how is that hard to understand?

Just now, David Mills said:

I don't understand. X-Plane 12 can't do weather and scenery simultaneously? I must be missing something.

Yes, you're missing a lot of things.

The preview shots didn't show all the new features at the same time. Some shots showed say the new sounds, but with the old lighting, some others maybe the new lighting but with legacy clouds, and so on.

They're still in a relatively early phase of development, for this reason the previews we saw use both new and old features, so probably we're gonna see better and better previews as the time goes on and the development continues.

1 minute ago, Murmur said:

They're still in a relatively early phase of development

They're at tech demo and have alpha, beta (point it will go on sale), release candidate and final still to go.

31 minutes ago, RXP said:

NB: yes there is posterization and this is expected because it is a cheap attempt to test a theory, unfortunately with reference material which is sRGB only.

And get a feel for the bugs:

I should get time to listen to the Q&A section through the week, but I'd say from what they showed (bearing in mind this is very guestimate, from someone with no insider knowledge) we're probably looking at Q3 2022 for the first beta to drop, there is also a lot of could be much sooner (e.g. run with those bugs) could be much later (e.g. try and fix them first and they end up really hard), but that's my best estimate for the time when XP12 has a chance of getting close to a state where flying it isn't more trouble than its worth.

9 hours ago, fogboundturtle said:

For all the great bullshot that they showed. This is what I noticed during the video.  I am not sure if this is because of YT compression but this looks like XPlane 11 with better tree. Everything else is terrible. very flat lighting, low resolution texture. very generic autogen. This is what I am talking about.  Also the LDO seems to be very small. 

 

 

 

To be realistic, this is not a new version or Next Gen. One can easily find a scene like this in XP11. With a few mods it would look even better.

So it's up to the community and 3rd party dev's to fix up the graphics all over again.  Some things never change!

Red Flag Alert:  I didn't hear any talk about performance / multi threading.  At this point I would bet the bottom dollar it's going to be like XP11 and quite possibly worse than XP11.

3 hours ago, mSparks said:

Any particular reason you are commenting on the scenery in the weather tech demo rather than the scenery tech demo?

I was there and talked to them, don't expect anything major on scenery from above 5000 to 35000+ they are all generic texture and building, repeat will be there from object, texture and so on. They did not want to show these, are not related to unfinished, you will see some detailed scenery the rest of the world all generic,The 3d trees are rendered in very very low altitude and in short range, a line appears when this is draw. From above it look like XP11 a bit enhanced but nothing major improvement on this area, but this is Austin philosophy, he clearly stated tons of time, not a surprise.

Another thing Austin talked, the performance won't be anything near XP11, expect significant drop.

Edited September 27, 20214 yr by PaulBB

10 minutes ago, Greazer said:

 

To be realistic, this is not a new version or Next Gen. One can easily find a scene like this in XP11. With a few mods it would look even better.

So it's up to the community and 3rd party dev's to fix up the graphics all over again.  Some things never change!

Red Flag Alert:  I didn't hear any talk about performance / multi threading.  At this point I would bet the bottom dollar it's going to be like XP11 and quite possibly worse than XP11.

You may right that its " not a new version or Next Gen" because its not finish.  No need to get the community revd up to start worrying about fix something that is not compete, let alone release. 

While your on the subject about performance, it was smart of them to not discuss performance, again its still not compete. 

Why brag about performance if its subject to change before they had to chance to optimize it after they finish adding things.

19 minutes ago, PaulBB said:

don't expect anything major on scenery from above 5000 to 35000+

But I got that covered 😄 So it makes me happy

 

22 minutes ago, Greazer said:

To be realistic, this is not a new version or Next Gen. One can easily find a scene like this in XP11. With a few mods it would look even better.

Do you have Synesthesia?

 

Edited September 27, 20214 yr by mSparks

Austin,

Please hire some graphics gurus hot shots! This should have been obvious a long time back. XP looks dated to other sims. XP is stuck in the past.  But times have changed.

1 minute ago, Greazer said:

Austin,

Please hire some graphics gurus hot shots! This should have been obvious a long time back. XP looks dated to other sims. XP is stuck in the past.  But times have changed.

Not sure if you realize, but Austin doesn't come to avsim...ever.