I was checking out real-time traffic in MSFS World Map by comparing specific real-world moving plane icons shown in the map to flight data in flightaware.com. There's always  seems to be a time difference between the two. A plane might still be actively moving in World Map but it might show as having already landed in flightaware.com. Which source is more accurate? (I have a persistent 800+ Mbps connection). Thank you.

2 minutes ago, bofhlusr said:

I was checking out real-time traffic in MSFS World Map by comparing specific real-world moving plane icons shown in the map to flight data in flightaware.com. There's always  seems to be a time difference between the two. A plane might still be actively moving in World Map but it might show as having already landed in flightaware.com. Which source is more accurate? (I have a persistent 800+ Mbps connection). Thank you.

Obviously Flight aware is accurate. 

3 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Obviously Flight aware is accurate. 

Sorry, but it's not obvious to me. Isn't World Map supposed to be real-time also?  Where can I get more info on World Map eg. like what it tracks, can it filter by airlines or by airport, plane types, etc? Does Asobo or Microsoft provide any guidance at all? Thanks.

2 minutes ago, bofhlusr said:

Sorry, but it's not obvious to me. Isn't World Map supposed to be real-time also?  Where can I get more info on World Map eg. like what it tracks, can it filter by airlines or by airport, plane types, etc? Does Asobo or Microsoft provide any guidance at all? Thanks.

Many people use Flight aware to track flights so they know when to drive to the airport to pick up someone from an arriving flight. Can you imagine that happening with the Live Traffic in any simulator?  https://flightaware.com/

Edited October 7, 20214 yr by Bobsk8

2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Many people use Flight aware to track flights so they know when to drive to the airport to pick up someone from an arriving flight. Can you imagine that happening with the Live Traffic in any simulator?  https://flightaware.com/

That makes sense. So MSFS World Map is not really real-time then?

56 minutes ago, bofhlusr said:

That makes sense. So MSFS World Map is not really real-time then?

Short answer no.. 

The information is clearly delayed.

FlightAware generates its tracking directly from user fed ADS-B receivers. It's only off by less than 10 seconds at most. You can even buy your own ADS-B receiver kit to help contribute to its tracking. 

MSFS is using some variant of this same data, not directly though and  heavily "processing" it and is off by minutes and also culling flights to limit the amount of traffic shown. 

Edited October 7, 20214 yr by styckx

1 hour ago, bofhlusr said:

That makes sense. So MSFS World Map is not really real-time then?

And most important, when you actually start the flight at the airport you were observing on the map, nobody's there 😄 

1 hour ago, MrFuzzy said:

And most important, when you actually start the flight at the airport you were observing on the map, nobody's there 😄 

How true... when you really come to think of it. This is really funny!  Thanks. 🤣

there is a delay and Asobo have admitted that. What they don't say is that not all traffic is being shown - just a fraction in fact in some places. 

 

 

Does anyone know if they've said why the "live" traffic is so heavily delayed?

1 hour ago, bofhlusr said:

How true... when you really come to think of it. This is really funny!  Thanks. 🤣

Whats funny is if MSFS were to draw all that AI traffic realtime 1:1 with flight aware your sim probably would run at 1 fps. Lets not expect too much from live traffic.

55 minutes ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Whats funny is if MSFS were to draw all that AI traffic realtime 1:1 with flight aware your sim probably would run at 1 fps. Lets not expect too much from live traffic.

Not to mention a CTD every 10 minutes. 

 

5 hours ago, bofhlusr said:

So MSFS World Map is not really real-time then?

No. And live weather is also not real time.

dear bofhlusr, 

the best software we have is PSXTseecon traffic MSFS and Realtraffic software. Two great tool designed to inject all real traffic with 10 seconds delay. Thsi real traffic can be seen exactly in Flightradar24. 

When i use it, i can have in some airport even 250 planes. parked, landing, taxiing...as in real. 

the bad thing is that after SU update of MSFS, when PSX seecon traffic injected more than 13 ai models you had a lovely CTD.

but in prepar3d works veeeeery well. 

ejnjoy it.