November 23, 20214 yr Hi everyone. I have a killer pc, honeycomb components, and a great but 27” flat monitor. I’m looking to top things off with a good wide monitor with g-sync. I have plenty of room and with reason money is not an issue. Looking for suggestions. Don’t want multiple monitors, want a high quality ultra wide. Suggestions? Who is using ultrawides? Case: (Lian Li PC-011 Dynamic XL), PSU: (MEG Ai300p pcie 5 & ATX 3.0), Motherboard: (ASUS TUF Gaming x670E-PLUS WIFI 6E), CPU: (AMD Ryzen 7 7800-X3D) Memory: (G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB Series 64GB DDR5 6000), GPU: (Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 AMP Extreme Airo). CPU Cooler: (ASUS ROG Strix LC RGB 360) Fans: (7 Corsair LL Series 120mm RGB)
November 23, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, Rob G said: Suggestions? Who is using ultrawides? Lots of topics on this, search the forums. I, and others, have written extensively to death about this. You want g-sync ultimate or normal and NOT compatible; If money is no object. Check LG ultra gear, dell Alienware, or this list, and remember, keep away from compatible :- https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/products/g-sync-monitors/specs/ And you want something like this:- https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/alienware-38-curved-gaming-monitor-aw3821dw/apd/210-axqm/monitors-monitor-accessories?gacd=9687022-5016-5761040-271164963-0&dgc=ST&gclid=CjwKCAiAv_KMBhAzEiwAs-rX1LaAUGXXQf_ez8b5F4PsnEI4npjSNKnbAICTihjv-_LkW8QDE87_bBoCp88QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&nclid=gP07pROnR8_NRbBvJrvjFoutt5FlGJAhCPUXfToYMsRufH1kEpC96qB6Z35ZGLydMVwuxLdVMP7ZUJOxfJjjMyHTR4Tf8QDJQ_Odrhn-HcE8YbznduABnMW7dTJTYuQs Edited November 23, 20214 yr by Ianrivaldosmith
November 23, 20214 yr I'd get an LG 48CX 4k TV ... it's the near perfect PC monitor. https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/48-cx-oled Always have fun --0-- Flight Sim Navigation
November 23, 20214 yr If you've got the budget for it, PG35VQ is pretty sweet. HDR is unbelievable. Gsync Ultimate was a requirement of mine. It's ultrawide, but not too ridiculous. I looked at the Alienware 38, which would also be awesome because you get a touch more vertical real estate. The only reason I didn't go for that one is because I'm a snob and wanted a higher brightness nit count. But, the Alienware is also Gsync Ultimate, I believe. AMD 9950X3D | 64 GB RAM | RTX 5090 FMR: 747 FO, 757/767 CAPT, 737 Check Airman Current 777 CAPT
November 23, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, RudyB24 said: I'd get an LG 48CX 4k TV ... it's the near perfect PC monitor. https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/48-cx-oled No it’s not. At all. It’s not g-sync hardware based. For image quality you want LG C1/G1. CX is old(er). But even then it’s only g-sync compatible, which means it suffers from black flickering, if you can’t maintain above 40fps. Due to LFC, it’s nit ‘true’ gsync, because it’s not hardware based, and hardware based eliminates the drawbacks that compatible bring. But for widescreen (which is what he asked for), along with g-sync, then the CX is way off. (as is the C1/G1) Like I say, do a forum search, it’s been discussed and written about a lot. Edited November 23, 20214 yr by Ianrivaldosmith
November 23, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, V1ROTA7E said: If you've got the budget for it, PG35VQ is pretty sweet. HDR is unbelievable. Gsync Ultimate was a requirement of mine. It's ultrawide, but not too ridiculous. I looked at the Alienware 38, which would also be awesome because you get a touch more vertical real estate. The only reason I didn't go for that one is because I'm a snob and wanted a higher brightness nit count. But, the Alienware is also Gsync Ultimate, I believe. Now that’s what I call a monitor!
November 23, 20214 yr An LG UltraGear 34GP950G is probably my next monitor. System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 64Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | Seasonic Vertex 1000W I LG Ultra Gear 34 UW I
November 24, 20214 yr Have Monoprice 48" and its enormous. The Dell and Alienware 38"s are on sale now. SAR Pilot. Flight Sim'ing since the beginning.
November 24, 20214 yr I have the Alienware AW3821. Generally I am content with the product. I purchased it for AUD$1500 dollars which I consider very good value for what it is. Today it is back up to AUD$2500 and no stock. Previous to this I had the Dell 34" Ultrawide. The 38" ultra wide is miles ahead in all respects. The extra vertical real estate is much appreciated and the monitor also offers a slightly better pixel pitch which helps with AA. I like night flying in a darkened room. The previous 34" was poor for this so I limited this type of flying. The Alienware 38" is much more acceptable for night flying. Yes there is IPS glow but it is ok and there is minimal light bled at both the bottom corners, however not bad for a monitor that has this width. To call this monitor HDR is just wrong. It performs poorly at this task and with a minimal number of backlight zones it looks horrendous at night with HDR enabled. However it is so good in SDR I don’t mind. So if HDR is your thing I would stay away. I really like the 21:9 aspect ratio for flying. Having g-sync has been a game changer for me personally. While I really like the concept of OLED, the lack of Ultrawide and hardware based g-sync will keep me always from these until when and if that changes. So in summary I would definitely put it on you list to consider. Michael M System: AMD 9950X3D II Asus X670E Hero MB II 64GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 II RTX4090 II 2TB NVMe Samsung 980 Pro II EKWB CR360 AIO II Dell Alienware - AW3821DW 3840 X 1600 G-Sync Ultimate
November 24, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, michaelray said: I have the Alienware AW3821. Generally I am content with the product. I purchased it for AUD$1500 dollars which I consider very good value for what it is. Today it is back up to AUD$2500 and no stock. Previous to this I had the Dell 34" Ultrawide. The 38" ultra wide is miles ahead in all respects. The extra vertical real estate is much appreciated and the monitor also offers a slightly better pixel pitch which helps with AA. I like night flying in a darkened room. The previous 34" was poor for this so I limited this type of flying. The Alienware 38" is much more acceptable for night flying. Yes there is IPS glow but it is ok and there is minimal light bled at both the bottom corners, however not bad for a monitor that has this width. It should be noted that there are two previous generations of the Dell 34" ultrawide monitors...the first gen 21:9 ultrawide was the U3415W, which was a TN panel without G-Sync. The second-generation Dell/Alienware AW3420DW is an IPS monitor with 2ms response and the hardware G-Sync module. The AW3420DW is a significant step up from its predecessor--really all they have in common is the display size and resolution. From what I've read, the new 38" version is a better monitor still, with HDR and G-Sync Ultimate, but it also comes in at $1300 (US) versus $800 for the 34" version. I still prefer a large-format 4K TV for simming--I use a 55" 4K TV for my primary flight sim, but the 34" ultrawide is still a very good solution for simming, especially wide airliner panels or fast movers where you need a little more peripheral vision than what the standard 16:9 monitor will give you. And G-Sync rocks. I use my AW3420DW mostly for DCS and occasional retro FSX flights. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
November 24, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, w6kd said: the first gen 21:9 ultrawide was the U3415W, which was a TN panel without G-Sync. The second-generation Dell/Alienware AW3420DW is an IPS monitor with 2ms response and the hardware G-Sync module. The AW3420DW is a significant step up from its predecessor--really all they have in common is the display size and resolution Minor correction - I have the U3415 and it's an IPS panel, not TN. For it's time (released six years ago) it has great color accuracy - but old school refresh rates and response times. It's a tough one to upgrade, since while a 144hz+ refresh rate and G-sync are no doubt noticeable, $1,200+ is a lot to pay for that difference. OP - you'll notice a HUGE difference going to any one of the displays mentioned above. Going from 27" to a 21:9 34" display is a night and day type difference in experience. Good luck and let us know what you go with. John
November 24, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, w6kd said: It should be noted that there are two previous generations of the Dell 34" ultrawide monitors...the first gen 21:9 ultrawide was the U3415W, which was a TN panel without G-Sync. Mine was the U3415W, manufactured in June 2015. Definitely an IPS panel. Michael M System: AMD 9950X3D II Asus X670E Hero MB II 64GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 II RTX4090 II 2TB NVMe Samsung 980 Pro II EKWB CR360 AIO II Dell Alienware - AW3821DW 3840 X 1600 G-Sync Ultimate
November 24, 20214 yr I have the AW3821DW as well. I'd agree with Michaelray that the HDR isn't great as there's only 8 zones if I remember right. It's also extremely bright when you have HDR switched on which I found uncomfortable. However it's SDR looks fantastic and HDR is often iffily implemented in games so not a deal breaker for me. It's advertised as a 144mhz monitor but you have to go into a mode for that rate which doesn't give great results in terms of artifacts. But 120mhz is no problem. The extra vertical real estate is nice too compared to a 1440p ultrawide - you get about 25% more screen size overall. Due to the screen aspect ratio you'll get black bands on the sides of full screen videos but that doesn't bother me. Overall I'm very happy with it and use it as my work and gaming monitor without any issues.
December 1, 20214 yr Author In case anyone is interested, I ended up buying the Acer X38S (the new model), which if anyone cares, Amazon now has in stock (https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-Sbmiiphzx-Monitor-Ultimate/dp/B09JCM5T3H/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=acer+x38s&qid=1638320898&sr=8-1). I just think the specs are absolutely awesome. Not much review material yet but the P version got good reviews and this version has fixed some of the issues the P version had. God awful expensive though. Between a $2000 monitor, an i9-10900, an ASUS 3090, 2 M.2 drives and 3 other SSD's, One hell of an expensive setup, but top notch. I am a retired computer engineer so I love having high end tech. The only thing I didn't do when I built the rig as use water cooling (except for the AIO CPU cooler). Might add more liquid cooling later but we'll see. Edited December 1, 20214 yr by Rob G Case: (Lian Li PC-011 Dynamic XL), PSU: (MEG Ai300p pcie 5 & ATX 3.0), Motherboard: (ASUS TUF Gaming x670E-PLUS WIFI 6E), CPU: (AMD Ryzen 7 7800-X3D) Memory: (G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB Series 64GB DDR5 6000), GPU: (Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 AMP Extreme Airo). CPU Cooler: (ASUS ROG Strix LC RGB 360) Fans: (7 Corsair LL Series 120mm RGB)
December 2, 20214 yr Good choice! I love my 38" but mine lacks HDR and G-sync. Which are very nice additions. Flight Simulator's - Prepar3d V5/MSFS | Operating System - WIN 11 | Main Board - GIGABYTE X870E Aorus Elite WIFI7 | CPU - AMD 9800X3D | RAM - CORSAIR 64GB 6600Mhz | Video Card - EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra | Monitor - DELL 38" Ultrawide | Case - CORSAIR 750D Full Tower | CPU Cooling - CORSAIR H170i Elite LCD 420mm Push/Pull | Power Supply - EVGA 1000 G+ | Sound System - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 600 w/subwoofer
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