I have been waiting YEARS for this sort of haze effect in a MS FS.   So yes, I am pleased by it and even find it immersive (pun intended), though at times it does seem to be too much of a good thing.

I honestly think some of you are flying a different sim than I am (talking about all of the people on here defending this recently introduced "haze" as being realistic).  I totally understand that visibility is generally reduced by some level of haze during IRL flight.  But the MSFS haze around most airports in the USA at low levels is constant now.  I often cannot see objects a quarter mile away when I am taxiing on the ground.  When approaching these same airports, the runway becomes visible only when I am maybe a mile or less away and at less than 500 feet altitude.  Again, this is CONSTANT and not reflective of real life weather at all.  I am not even complaining about the fact that these areas of "haze" seem to pop in suddenly and disappear just as suddenly, which is of course annoying and immersion breaking as well.  I am happy Asobo is attempting to add some sort of haze effect to the weather engine, but the current implementation (at least in the US) is terrible and I would much prefer to have the option to disable that effect completely.  Right now I have started limiting my flights to nighttime after dark, as for some reason I am not seeing the haze at that time.

 For those of you arguing in favor of this new haze, are you flying in the USA?  I am curious if some people are seeing the haze effect more/less than others - perhaps based on the online server to which we are connected.

6 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

That is not what I said.. Do  you understand this statement that I made "  Only place I saw haze all the time was flying into LA, they called it smog"....Maybe try reading it very slowly....😉

Roger that, sorry for the poor reading comprehension.

9 hours ago, PlumCrazy said:

 For those of you arguing in favor of this new haze, are you flying in the USA?  I am curious if some people are seeing the haze effect more/less than others - perhaps based on the online server to which we are connected.

Another theory, which may have more validity, is that the US visibility data is being misinterpreted.  When  I fly in the US now, I'm getting haze almost everywhere or with a much lower ceiling than the actual metar for that location.  It's almost as if a 10 mile min. is always being interpreted as exactly 10 miles, which really isn't the case.

I've been flying outside of the US a lot in the past few weeks and the weather (amount of haze, visibility and ceiling) is much more accurate.

13 hours ago, PlumCrazy said:

I honestly think some of you are flying a different sim than I am (talking about all of the people on here defending this recently introduced "haze" as being realistic).

Honestly this has occurred to me as well.  There has to be some kind of variable in our setup. 

Over the last week, I've spent several sim sessions on different days hopping from one private grass strip to the next in IL.  I've used live weather, so I've had a few different days of live weather to view.  I've been navigating purely by pilotage, and I've never seen less than probably 15nm vis.  Plenty enough for pilotage (which is fantastic with the We Love VFR mod btw).  

Conversely, when I fly where it's supposed to be foggy, the depiction is wonderful. Just hopped from Medford to Crescent City tonight, and I've never seen coastal / valley fog effects that good.  Crescent was reporting 200ft / 1.5nm, and I started to get the rabbit at 300 above, had the threshold at mins.

I don't know what the issue is and I hope they get it sorted, but I sure hope they don't just scrap this new weather model because it's GREAT. 

Edited December 4, 20214 yr by Stearmandriver

It isn't just in the U.S. -- tried flying a circuit at LSGG.  METAR had rain with scattered clouds at 030 and ceiling at 036.  There was no rain visible on the ground or windscreen, but there was "pea-soup" fog at ground level (or maybe we were just in the "ceiling" at 1400 feet, because there was an overall cloud bank, not "scattered" anything).  It was hard to even make out the airport buildings.

Edited December 4, 20214 yr by JDWalley

Haze everywhere I can stomach.   Clouds on the ground, not

7 hours ago, Stearmandriver said:

Conversely, when I fly where it's supposed to be foggy, the depiction is wonderful. Just hopped from Medford to Crescent City tonight, and I've never seen coastal / valley fog effects that good.  Crescent was reporting 200ft / 1.5nm, and I started to get the rabbit at 300 above, had the threshold at mins.

I don't know what the issue is and I hope they get it sorted, but I sure hope they don't just scrap this new weather model because it's GREAT. 

I agree that overall, the weather upgrade is great - but out of about a dozen flights in the US, only one has been correct.  The only way I've been able to complete some flights (or even take off for that matter) is to break minimums - something I don't want to do.

I have yet to have a flight outside of the US where the weather wasn't almost spot-on, though it seems that there have been some issues outside of US borders for a few.

1 hour ago, RandallR said:

I have yet to have a flight outside of the US where the weather wasn't almost spot-on, though it seems that there have been some issues outside of US borders for a few.

Well I had an issue earlier in the week flying to Nassau, Bahamas, from Florida, so it may be more like North America vs USA

1 hour ago, fppilot said:

Well I had an issue earlier in the week flying to Nassau, Bahamas, from Florida, so it may be more like North America vs USA

Hawaii too.

5 hours ago, RandallR said:

overall, the weather upgrade is great - but out of about a dozen flights in the US, only one has been correct. 

This is why it seems to me like not everyone is seeing the same behavior from this system.  I've had about a dozen sim sessions as well, all within the U.S. (one flight in Hawaii), and not once have I seen conditions different than currently being reported.  I seek out low IMC when looking to do an IFR flight, and good VMC in the midwest for Stearman hops... and I've seen conditions as reported every time.  So... I don't know why. 

50 minutes ago, Stearmandriver said:

This is why it seems to me like not everyone is seeing the same behavior from this system.

For several months now I have continued to plead for those posting about weather issues to include what region(s) they are flying.  I believe that would help hone in on the issue(s).    I had a flight yesterday with relatively accurate MSFS live weather from Billingham, Washington, USA, to Ketchikan, Alaska.  But today my flight from St Petersburg, Florida, USA, to Ft Lauderdale, FL was a totally different outcome.  5,000 broken reported at KFLL  was W0XOF (follow link) when I arrived.  Had to establish a hold and change to clear skies to land.

https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/WOXOF

Edited December 4, 20214 yr by fppilot

Most annoying is this sudden changing of haze sometimes. I started in San Francisco Intl. in thick haze today but when I reached the city it suddenly cleared up. Turned around and bang, haze returned. Yesterday I had a similar effect in Dresden, Germany, where this kind of haze almost never happens in real life.