Any update on the SU7 Hotfix?

[Bobsk8 12,732]

I can see it now.....    Jan 18, 2022    " I decided to go for the hotfix now. I wonder if Track IR will work normally after I install it?"   😉

Edited December 18, 2021 by Bobsk8

[Micko 89]

It does, at least on my computer. And many more has been fixed as well.

Good luck

[phmcr 93]

41 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said:

From my perspective the color banding and the clouds hugging the ground are fixed.

Full release notes below:

 

Thanks Fuzzy, I should have read that. I was under impression live weather was up to par now....

[March Hare 720]

2 hours ago, phmcr said:

I checked, I got version 1.21.18, which I learned is the current one for the hotfix.....

What did they hotfix?

They haven't hotfixed anything. This is a beta testing build, which has corrected certain issues and not others, because it's an in-progress data gathering and analysis exercise while they work on a different build in the background, which may already contain some more fixes and will either then be released as another test iteration, or could result in the proper release version patch.

I've said it before elsewhere, but disappointment aimed at a beta test build is misdirected. If it were the actual released build (the patch) and still hadn't fixed the issues it aimed to fix, then there would be genuine cause for frustration.

[Bobsk8 12,732]

4 minutes ago, March Hare said:

They haven't hotfixed anything. This is a beta testing build, which has corrected certain issues and not others, because it's an in-progress data gathering and analysis exercise while they work on a different build in the background, which may already contain some more fixes and will either then be released as another test iteration, or could result in the proper release version patch.

I've said it before elsewhere, but disappointment aimed at a beta test build is misdirected. If it were the actual released build (the patch) and still hadn't fixed the issues it aimed to fix, then there would be genuine cause for frustration.

And of course, the new the new "proper release version" , if it follows their pattern, will almost certainly break some more things that are now working properly. 

[mikeklimek 151]

15 hours ago, Republic3D said:

Yesterday the game Humankind on Steam was updated. It was a large update, several GB.

The update broke some function for some people. 

Today it was hotfixed. ONE day later. 

It's also common for several automobile racing sims to be updated with hotfixes arriving just a few days later.   

[March Hare 720]

26 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

And of course, the new the new "proper release version" , if it follows their pattern, will almost certainly break some more things that are now working properly. 

But Microsoft have already stopped following their usual pattern with this beta. I purposely say Microsoft, not Asobo, because it's Microsoft's release plan that has caused the problems seen along the way. Breaking things is normal par for the course of this kind of development, constantly working on new features, etc., the difference being that you may not see (as many) broken parts in other games because the updates aren't tied to a planned, fixed or tight release schedule. When the developer must turn in the current build to the publisher to meet an inflexible, publicly promised release date, this is what you get.

Now, the signs here are that Microsoft have finally listened and changed to a flexible schedule, giving Asobo the opportunity to actually get things into working order. They have even removed SU8 from the latest roadmap. So, let's have a little more faith based on these indications of change.

Of course, you might still get some unexpected bugs, because that's also the nature of this industry, with unexpected problems occurring in live versions that have even escaped testers. But hopefully there will be nothing as glaringly broken in future updates.

[Republic3D 1,232]

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

And of course, the new the new "proper release version" , if it follows their pattern, will almost certainly break some more things that are now working properly. 

True. But their even number releases (SU4, SU6) have been good so far. So I'm hoping SU8 will be a good one too. 
That being said, we need the hotfix now before Christmas. 

[Stoopy 1,571]

It's really curious why the SU7 beta fix is still being referred to as a "Hotfix" when it took 2-1/2 weeks (Nov 18 to Dec 6) to see the light of day as a Beta and is still in that stage over 1-1/2 weeks later.  Granted, it's an open Beta and anyone can download it, but given how unexpected twists and turns happen with each SU or WU update and the horror stories of people having to do reinstalls when simple things seem to go wrong for whatever reason, some folks including myself understandably are dubious about jumping into another code branch when it remains to be seen if the offical version of the fix will have a well-behaved install over the beta version once Asobo decides to stick a fork in it and release it into production well over a month after SU7.  

So it's hardly "hot" and has really ended up being more of a casual, Room-TemperatureFix.  For contrast, in the IL-2 Sturmovik world, which as a flight simulator with it's own complexities missing in MSFS (weapon, damage, and pilot physiology modeling) and which also has regularly-scheduled major updates, the development team gets their hotfixes out in 1 to 2 days, perhaps 5 business days at max, and in rare cases where one or two items might hold up getting other fixes out, they split them into separate hotfixes so the community can get the fixed items as soon as possible while others are still in work.  Looking at it from purely an objective standpoint, the current lengthy MSFS beta fix strategy seems to be based on the idea of letting perfection stand in the way of progress.

But please don't get me wrong, I am certainly not complaining because it provides an opportunity to catch up on other activities.  Personally, while waiting for KSBA to not be socked in with constant clouds and haze obscuring the runways on final approach 24/7, I've been able to dive back in to expanding my DIY luthier skills and so far have done a complete full setup including fret re-level and crown on 3 of my newer guitars that really benefitted from some detailed attention.  They play like butter now, which makes the spare hours off work very entertaining and avoids stress thinking about such frightening thoughts like "what if 9 years from now, Asobo pushes out their last and final Sim Update and it has an odd number like SU67??!"

But for the time being I thank Asobo for letting me once again realize some productive hours in my spare time.  I hope everyone here at AvSim also finds time for the enjoyable things in life and has a wonderful Holiday Season while waiting for the eventual production fixes.

Edited December 18, 2021 by Stoopy

[Ixoye 1,821]

I have installed Beta today, so now I just hope I doesn't have to reinstall the whole game when the official hotfix is released.

[Bobsk8 12,732]

4 minutes ago, Ixoye said:

I have installed Beta today, so now I just hope I doesn't have to reinstall the whole game when the official hotfix is released.

or even reinstall windows.....🤓

[robcap 80]

11 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

or even reinstall windows.....🤓

Hahahaha😂

[Micko 89]

11 hours ago, Ixoye said:

I have installed Beta today, so now I just hope I doesn't have to reinstall the whole game when the official hotfix is released.

To reinstall the core game is a matter of minutes but to download and reinstall the official/OnStore folder is the real pain. I did a backup of that part (just in case) and hope this helps.

[Dominique_K 10,149]

12 hours ago, Ixoye said:

I have installed Beta today, so now I just hope I doesn't have to reinstall the whole game when the official hotfix is released.

You are more courageous than me 😄 ! 

Are you feeling better, by the way ?

[bobcat999 8,483]

Well it has caused me to have to build a whole new computer...  Or at least that is what I have told the wife!