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Hi Guys,

I have been reviewing what and what is not available via payware and I came up with this list.  I see that KDTW may come out soon and KSFO (one of my prior posts) is in the works.  However, I think this is how it stands for what is not yet available as of now, feel free to please correct me if I am wrong:

BOS / KBOS Boston–Logan International
BWI / KBWI Baltimore/Washington International
CLE / KCLE Cleveland Hopkins International
CVG / KCVG Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International
DAL / KDAL Dallas Love Field 
DTW / KDTW Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County
EWR / KEWR Newark Liberty International
HOU / KHOU Houston–Hobby
IAH / KIAH Houston–George Bush Intercontinental
MCI / KMCI Kansas City International
MEM / KMEM Memphis International
MSP / KMSP Minneapolis–Saint Paul International
PHX / KPHX Phoenix Sky Harbor International
PIT / KPIT Pittsburgh International
SLC / KSLC Salt Lake City International
TPA / KTPA Tampa International

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I would add KABQ & KSMF.

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Why just include payware?

Someone FINALLY started modding KPHL for free. Why is Philly so neglected? Such an iconic city and no one cares about it. 

Philadelphia International Airport v1.03 » Microsoft Flight Simulator

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58 minutes ago, Mike S KPDX said:

Hi Guys,

I have been reviewing what and what is not available via payware and I came up with this list.  I see that KDTW may come out soon and KSFO (one of my prior posts) is in the works.  However, I think this is how it stands for what is not yet available as of now, feel free to please correct me if I am wrong:

BOS / KBOS Boston–Logan International
BWI / KBWI Baltimore/Washington International
CLE / KCLE Cleveland Hopkins International
CVG / KCVG Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International
DAL / KDAL Dallas Love Field 
DTW / KDTW Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County
EWR / KEWR Newark Liberty International
HOU / KHOU Houston–Hobby
IAH / KIAH Houston–George Bush Intercontinental
MCI / KMCI Kansas City International
MEM / KMEM Memphis International
MSP / KMSP Minneapolis–Saint Paul International
PHX / KPHX Phoenix Sky Harbor International
PIT / KPIT Pittsburgh International
SLC / KSLC Salt Lake City International
TPA / KTPA Tampa International

 Cleveland is already Available from PacSim 

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5 hours ago, styckx said:

Why just include payware?

Someone FINALLY started modding KPHL for free. Why is Philly so neglected? Such an iconic city and no one cares about it. 

Philadelphia International Airport v1.03 » Microsoft Flight Simulator

massive airport domestically and has a large international gateway as well. Shameful no one has made a quality addon. the approach over the the shipyard is iconic imo.  Used to work for US Air back in the day and I can tell you Philly was a massive hub! 


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8 minutes ago, wiler said:

massive airport domestically and has a large international gateway as well. Shameful no one has made a quality addon. the approach over the the shipyard is iconic imo.  Used to work for US Air back in the day and I can tell you Philly was a massive hub! 

Yep. Also underrated is the relatively short final. The S turns over the Ben and Walt then straight in.. 

The only developer to give KPHL any real attention was SunSkyJet for FSX and they show no means to move anything to MSFS. They nailed the airport and entire city.. 

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6 hours ago, Mike S KPDX said:

Hi Guys,

I have been reviewing what and what is not available via payware and I came up with this list.  I see that KDTW may come out soon and KSFO (one of my prior posts) is in the works.  However, I think this is how it stands for what is not yet available as of now, feel free to please correct me if I am wrong:

BOS / KBOS Boston–Logan International
BWI / KBWI Baltimore/Washington International
CLE / KCLE Cleveland Hopkins International
CVG / KCVG Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International
DAL / KDAL Dallas Love Field 
DTW / KDTW Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County
EWR / KEWR Newark Liberty International
HOU / KHOU Houston–Hobby
IAH / KIAH Houston–George Bush Intercontinental
MCI / KMCI Kansas City International
MEM / KMEM Memphis International
MSP / KMSP Minneapolis–Saint Paul International
PHX / KPHX Phoenix Sky Harbor International
PIT / KPIT Pittsburgh International
SLC / KSLC Salt Lake City International
TPA / KTPA Tampa International

KBOS is one of FlyTampa's next releases. KCLE is has been mentioned above as available. KIAH is FSDT's next release. KMSP and KPHX are Flightbeam's next two releases. KPIT is planned by FSDT. KSLC is planned to be brought up to date and released for MSFS as well by PacSim.

Most if not all of the others may not be announced, but they have been done for P3D and/or XP by reputable developers and are popular so I don't see why these developers wouldn't bring them to MSFS.

Who is doing KDTW?

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8 hours ago, Mike S KPDX said:

Hi Guys,

I have been reviewing what and what is not available via payware and I came up with this list.  I see that KDTW may come out soon and KSFO (one of my prior posts) is in the works.  However, I think this is how it stands for what is not yet available as of now, feel free to please correct me if I am wrong:

BOS / KBOS Boston–Logan International
BWI / KBWI Baltimore/Washington International
CLE / KCLE Cleveland Hopkins International
CVG / KCVG Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International
DAL / KDAL Dallas Love Field 
DTW / KDTW Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County
EWR / KEWR Newark Liberty International
HOU / KHOU Houston–Hobby
IAH / KIAH Houston–George Bush Intercontinental
MCI / KMCI Kansas City International
MEM / KMEM Memphis International
MSP / KMSP Minneapolis–Saint Paul International
PHX / KPHX Phoenix Sky Harbor International
PIT / KPIT Pittsburgh International
SLC / KSLC Salt Lake City International
TPA / KTPA Tampa International

Who is doing Detroit? 


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9 hours ago, Mike S KPDX said:

Hi Guys,

I have been reviewing what and what is not available via payware and I came up with this list.  I see that KDTW may come out soon and KSFO (one of my prior posts) is in the works.  However, I think this is how it stands for what is not yet available as of now, feel free to please correct me if I am wrong:

BOS / KBOS Boston–Logan International
BWI / KBWI Baltimore/Washington International
CLE / KCLE Cleveland Hopkins International
CVG / KCVG Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International
DAL / KDAL Dallas Love Field 
DTW / KDTW Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County
EWR / KEWR Newark Liberty International
HOU / KHOU Houston–Hobby
IAH / KIAH Houston–George Bush Intercontinental
MCI / KMCI Kansas City International
MEM / KMEM Memphis International
MSP / KMSP Minneapolis–Saint Paul International
PHX / KPHX Phoenix Sky Harbor International
PIT / KPIT Pittsburgh International
SLC / KSLC Salt Lake City International
TPA / KTPA Tampa International

You forgot KDFW


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Forgot  IND / KIND  Indianapolis International

By the way. Here from Airnav are the average aircraft operations per day for airports on the current list, plus a few more, ranked from highest to lowest.  I found some surprises.

KDFW         1,941
KPHX         1,191
KDTW         1,078
KIAH            969
KSLC            944
KBOS            872
KEWR            762
KBWI            730
KMSP            670
KMDW            635
KPHL            603
KMEM            523
KIND            513
KDAL            505
KHOU            421
KTPA            416
KCVG            322
KPIT            295
KMCI            197
KCLE            195
KCLE            195

 

 

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Some thoughts back to you all:

I would add KABQ & KSMF.
not Class B airports, though nice airports

Why just include payware?
they often seem to be of better quality for the US I think

Cleveland is already Available from PacSim 
Thank you, did not catch this one, (wish I could edit my original post)

Most if not all of the others may not be announced, but they have been done for P3D and/or XP by reputable developers and are popular so I don't see why these developers wouldn't bring them to MSFS.
I hope so, looking forward to it.

You forgot KDFW
I think this is included in the premium package, so kind of already developed (wish I could buy this one though)

Forgot  IND / KIND  Indianapolis International
not Class B airports, nice airport anyway


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14 minutes ago, Mike S KPDX said:

Some thoughts back to you all:

I would add KABQ & KSMF.
not Class B airports, though nice airports

Why just include payware?
they often seem to be of better quality for the US I think

Cleveland is already Available from PacSim 
Thank you, did not catch this one, (wish I could edit my original post)

Most if not all of the others may not be announced, but they have been done for P3D and/or XP by reputable developers and are popular so I don't see why these developers wouldn't bring them to MSFS.
I hope so, looking forward to it.

You forgot KDFW
I think this is included in the premium package, so kind of already developed (wish I could buy this one though)

Forgot  IND / KIND  Indianapolis International
not Class B airports, nice airport anyway

Well!  The KDFW included in the "premium" package leaves a lot to be desired.......it is kind of halfway between crappy and payware material.


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So, if I got this correct, these are the Class B US airports that we have no information on as to if they are being developed or not.  In other words these are not currently being worked on that we know of:

BWI / KBWI Baltimore/Washington International
CVG / KCVG Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International
DTW / KDTW Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County
EWR / KEWR Newark Liberty International
HOU / KHOU Houston–Hobby (class B secondary airport)
MCI / KMCI Kansas City International
TPA / KTPA Tampa International
PHL / KPHL Philadelphia International

I removed KDAL and KHOU as those only are under the B Class airspace of larger adjacent airports and are not actually Class B
 

 


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