7 hours ago, Ixoye said:

The only thing I have to complain about is that the trees still have their leaves left in the middle of winter in the areas that are temporarily snow-free, at least in Scandinavia, and that all roads are covered with snow in the areas that are snow-covered, but it is the same problem with Bijan's mod, his snow mask makes no difference for me.

Hi Ixoye. Wanted to provide a bit of clarity and context in regards to winter trees in AccuSeason. In order to display trees in the simulator, we have to use assets that are available within the MSFS codebase. Unfortunately the MSFS codebase does not contain trees that are only trunks and bare branches. We were, however, very glad when we found the vegetation in the codebase that contained less leaves than standard, fully-leaved trees. When we found this, we were able to modify the assets a bit and present them to our customers as Winter Deciduous Trees. 

With that said, in AccuSeason, areas in the world that contain deciduous trees and where cold winter occurs display trees that look relatively dormant and contain significantly less leaves than trees that contain full leaves.

To illustrate I will start with default trees in the MSFS codebase. Below are trees that have a full amount of leaves and are to depict trees that have turned to Rust and Brown colors (late autumn colors) but leaves have not yet fallen. These trees showed up in earlier weeks this past autumn and early winter.

 

In the images below are what we at REX refer to as Winter Deciduous Trees, which are the tress we found in the MSFS codebase that contain much less leaves than the default trees above and look somewhat dormant. These are trees that are now showing up, and have been for some time, in the areas of the world that has a cold winter and where deciduous trees display. As you compare the trees above to those below, you should be able to see the difference. This is what would be displaying in Scandinavia. By the way, I am hoping that Asobo will eventually have bare trees in their codebase, but until then, this is truly the best available for autogenerated trees.

 

Last, here are some real world examples of dormant trees to compare to what AccuSeason displays.

Hope this helps. 

18 hours ago, MikeT707 said:

In the same flight you would see Winter Deciduous trees in Minneapolis, so something that looks like this:

 

And in Miami, you would see green trees, palm trees, and other tropical trees/vegetation like this:

 

Right now most of the trees you will see on your way down to Miami would be the dormant-looking trees you see in the Minneapolis pic. That is because in January, most of the trees from Minneapolis on down to Miami are dormant. They do green up in Florida.

To illustrate the point that the seasons gradually transition on a weekly basis, if you were to fly, let's say in mid-October from Minneapolis, you would see something like this in Minneapolis:

 

As you continued to fly south you would see vegetation that is not so far into autumn, so something like this:

 

And then when you arrived in Miami, you would see this:

 

 

Hope that helps. 

I'm sold, picking this up now.

3 hours ago, Silicus said:

That is your opinion, which is fine. I find the current iterations of seasons very lack luster. Each to their own. I am sure there is a market for it in the current state, but not for me. Having an opinion on half finished products is not bizarre, how you talk down to people is. Earned an ignore from me (first one in 13 years of avsim).

Bijan and REX seasons are lackluster? Seriously? You appear to be setting a very high standard indeed, one that may not be met for years, perhaps decades. Meanwhile, as a certified non-perfectionist, I find MSFS with these add-ons just incredible, and beyond anything I ever expected I would live to see in a flight sim.

1 hour ago, MikeT707 said:

Hi Ixoye. Wanted to provide a bit of clarity and context in regards to winter trees in AccuSeason. In order to display trees in the simulator, we have to use assets that are available within the MSFS codebase. Unfortunately the MSFS codebase does not contain trees that are only trunks and bare branches. We were, however, very glad when we found the vegetation in the codebase that contained less leaves than standard, fully-leaved trees. When we found this, we were able to modify the assets a bit and present them to our customers as Winter Deciduous Trees. 

With that said, in AccuSeason, areas in the world that contain deciduous trees and where cold winter occurs display trees that look relatively dormant and contain significantly less leaves than trees that contain full leaves.

To illustrate I will start with default trees in the MSFS codebase. Below are trees that have a full amount of leaves and are to depict trees that have turned to Rust and Brown colors (late autumn colors) but leaves have not yet fallen. These trees showed up in earlier weeks this past autumn and early winter.

 

In the images below are what we at REX refer to as Winter Deciduous Trees, which are the tress we found in the MSFS codebase that contain much less leaves than the default trees above and look somewhat dormant. These are trees that are now showing up, and have been for some time, in the areas of the world that has a cold winter and where deciduous trees display. As you compare the trees above to those below, you should be able to see the difference. This is what would be displaying in Scandinavia. By the way, I am hoping that Asobo will eventually have bare trees in their codebase, but until then, this is truly the best available for autogenerated trees.

 

Last, here are some real world examples of dormant trees to compare to what AccuSeason displays.

Hope this helps. 

 

 

So, are the Winter trees displaying in Florida (confirmed by REX) fixed yet so I can pull the plug on this great add-on?

 

Thanks!

6 minutes ago, cobalt said:

3 hours ago, Silicus said:

That is your opinion, which is fine. I find the current iterations of seasons very lack luster. Each to their own. I am sure there is a market for it in the current state, but not for me. Having an opinion on half finished products is not bizarre, how you talk down to people is. Earned an ignore from me (first one in 13 years of avsim).

Bijan and REX seasons are lackluster? Seriously? You appear to be setting a very high standard indeed, one that may not be met for years, perhaps decades. Meanwhile, as a certified non-perfectionist, I find MSFS with these add-ons just incredible, and beyond anything I ever expected I would live to see in a flight sim.

I received an ignore from the OP for saying the same thing.  I suggested what he wanted may not be available to developers until 2032.  I would have responded in a much less bewildered way if the OP had not blamed developers for doing a poor job of portrayal of winter scenery.  He didn't appear to understand there are always restrictions on what is possible for a developer, be that software, hardware or access to an application like MSFS.

I am sorry the OP took exception to my comments and apologise if I came across as talking down to him, but he might want to reflect how he came across to developers of the software he was talking down to.

3 minutes ago, Kilo60 said:

So, are the Winter trees displaying in Florida (confirmed by REX) fixed yet so I can pull the plug on this great add-on?Thanks!

Thanks for quoting the 20 images and the text in order to post that line. I enjoyed scrolling through them again.

2 hours ago, MikeT707 said:

Hi Ixoye. Wanted to provide a bit of clarity and context in regards to winter trees in AccuSeason. In order to display trees in the simulator, we have to use assets that are available within the MSFS codebase. Unfortunately the MSFS codebase does not contain trees that are only trunks and bare branches. We were, however, very glad when we found the vegetation in the codebase that contained less leaves than standard, fully-leaved trees. When we found this, we were able to modify the assets a bit and present them to our customers as Winter Deciduous Trees. 

With that said, in AccuSeason, areas in the world that contain deciduous trees and where cold winter occurs display trees that look relatively dormant and contain significantly less leaves than trees that contain full leaves.

To illustrate I will start with default trees in the MSFS codebase. Below are trees that have a full amount of leaves and are to depict trees that have turned to Rust and Brown colors (late autumn colors) but leaves have not yet fallen. These trees showed up in earlier weeks this past autumn and early winter.

 

In the images below are what we at REX refer to as Winter Deciduous Trees, which are the tress we found in the MSFS codebase that contain much less leaves than the default trees above and look somewhat dormant. These are trees that are now showing up, and have been for some time, in the areas of the world that has a cold winter and where deciduous trees display. As you compare the trees above to those below, you should be able to see the difference. This is what would be displaying in Scandinavia. By the way, I am hoping that Asobo will eventually have bare trees in their codebase, but until then, this is truly the best available for autogenerated trees.

 

Last, here are some real world examples of dormant trees to compare to what AccuSeason displays.

Hope this helps. 

I have understood that, hopefully Asobo will fix this problem in the future, as well as the problem with unpaved roads in snow, otherwise I am more than happy with your program.

How difficult can it be not to include all the pictures in a quote? It's been done twice now.

9 minutes ago, Farlis said:

How difficult can it be not to include all the pictures in a quote? It's been done twice now.

Tempted, but I annoyed myself at the thought of doing it..

Come on guys - have a heart!   It's easy enough to just quote the text rather than keep duplicating a long stream of photos...  My mouse scroll wheel finger is wearing out!  

Please stop reposting 20 pics, and then adding a line. 

8 hours ago, Kilo60 said:

So, are the Winter trees displaying in Florida (confirmed by REX) fixed yet so I can pull the plug on this great add-on?

Hi Kilo60. Thanks for your question. I just started working on this today. Currently working on Spring, which has been taking the majority of my time lately.

13 hours ago, MikeT707 said:

Hi Ixoye. Hope this helps. 

Above is what can be done instead for those who like to quote 20 pictures and then post one line.
Otherwise, if you want to address a post to one user, you can press @ and then type their username,

like this: @Ixoye or @Kilo60 or even @MikeT707.

It sends them a notification, just as quoting 20 pictures and 17 lines of text does.

Edited January 27, 20224 yr by Reader

16 hours ago, MikeT707 said:

Hi Kilo60. Thanks for your question. I just started working on this today. Currently working on Spring, which has been taking the majority of my time lately.

 

 

Godspeed and thanks!

What about Arizona? no one can do southern/western AZ correctly.  I don't want a to get a product like this unless I can see some natural vegetation shots. My problem with Bijan is it just had way too many large trees and cactii, it looked worse than default because it tried to do too much.  Outside of cities the trees are maybe 15-20 feet tall and they don't look like mesquite or Palo Verdes. Then when you went into the higher terrain it went to deciduous looking trees instead of juniper and pine. Southern/Western Arizona has been neglected in every single add-on in every single flight simulator since the beginning of time.  We don't really have seasons here except for when everything blooms in the spring.