Just now, Bobsk8 said:

SWS probably already had the SU8 update, and had been working with it

Since SU8 is only in beta stage, and will obviously be prone to changes for now...why on earth would any aircraft dev consider releasing a flight model change right now that sounds like it is related to the same physics being worked on in the current MS beta?

They obviously have access to the beta but who releases product patches that are based off a beta?

The timing is strange and a bit worrisome to me, but maybe they are thinking that the beta will not effect their changes in any way. Either that or they will just need another patch on top of the patch after SU8 is actually finished and released.

 

All good stuff.  I wish they would build their own pax/cargo loader.  I never seem to have success with the MSFS version.  I load the pilot and co-pilot in the startup screen and then once the aircraft if loaded in the sim, I open up the W&B to load more.  Never seems to work right and animations are not correct for what I have loaded.

30 minutes ago, hangar said:

Since SU8 is only in beta stage, and will obviously be prone to changes for now...why on earth would any aircraft dev consider releasing a flight model change right now that sounds like it is related to the same physics being worked on in the current MS beta?

They obviously have access to the beta but who releases product patches that are based off a beta?

The timing is strange and a bit worrisome to me, but maybe they are thinking that the beta will not effect their changes in any way. Either that or they will just need another patch on top of the patch after SU8 is actually finished and released.

 

My guess is that SWS knows what they are doing, they have done a pretty good job so far. 

22 minutes ago, MarkW said:

All good stuff.  I wish they would build their own pax/cargo loader.  I never seem to have success with the MSFS version.  I load the pilot and co-pilot in the startup screen and then once the aircraft if loaded in the sim, I open up the W&B to load more.  Never seems to work right and animations are not correct for what I have loaded.

I just load everything up in the startup screen, and then it is correct on the aircraft, without having to go to W and B in the aircraft, 

IIs patch out yet?

Edited February 19, 20224 yr by sd_flyer

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3 hours ago, MarkW said:

All good stuff.  I wish they would build their own pax/cargo loader.  I never seem to have success with the MSFS version.  I load the pilot and co-pilot in the startup screen and then once the aircraft if loaded in the sim, I open up the W&B to load more.  Never seems to work right and animations are not correct for what I have loaded.

2 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

I just load everything up in the startup screen, and then it is correct on the aircraft, without having to go to W and B in the aircraft, 

If you use a consistent set of loading you can also edit the "flight_model.cfg" file for the respective Kodiak types. Just back up the original files first. The respective folders are in the Kodiak's "..../SimObjects/Airplanes/ folder".  I have not found in MSFS aircraft how to change the initial fuel load.

Open the spoiler window below for an example of what I use in the kodiak_gear_CP.

Spoiler

[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
max_gross_weight = 7255
empty_weight = 3950
reference_datum_position = 5.82, 0, 0
empty_weight_cg_position = -6.327459, 0, 0.5
cg_forward_limit = 0.14
cg_aft_limit = 0.4
empty_weight_pitch_moi = 5281.600098
empty_weight_roll_moi = 3478.600098
empty_weight_yaw_moi = 7032.799805
empty_weight_coupled_moi = 300
activate_mach_limit_based_on_cg = 0
activate_cg_limit_based_on_mach = 0
max_number_of_stations = 14
station_load.0 = 230, -3.159999, -1.5, 1, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.PILOT, 1
station_load.1 = 190, -3.159999, 1.5, 1, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.COPILOT, 2
station_load.2 = 180, -6.29, -1.5, 1, Row 1 Left, 0
station_load.3 = 192, -6.29, 1.5, 1, Row 1 Right, 0
station_load.4 = 130, -8.87, -1.5, 1, Row 2 Left, 0
station_load.5 = 130, -8.87, 1.5, 1, Row 2 Right, 0
station_load.6 = 135, -11.457, -1.5, 1, Row 3 Left, 0
station_load.7 = 128, -11.457, 1.5, 1, Row 3 Right, 0
station_load.8 = 0, -14.04, -1.5, 1, Row 4 Left, 0
station_load.9 = 0, -14.04, 1.5, 1, Row 4 Right, 0
station_load.10 = 60, -16.69, 0, 0.7, Cargo shelf Max 200lb, 6
station_load.11 = 128, -2.167, 0, -2.956, Cargo bay 1 Max 290lb, 6 ;TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.CARGO_POD_1
station_load.12 = 70, -6.27, 0, -2.956, Cargo bay 2 Max 280lb, 6 ;TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.CARGO_POD_2
station_load.13 = 80, -9.23, 0, -2.956, Cargo bay 3 Max 180lb, 6 ;TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.CARGO_POD_3
 

 

Edited February 19, 20224 yr by fppilot

1 minute ago, fppilot said:

 

If you use a consistent set of loading you can also edit the "flight_model.cfg" file for the respective Kodiak types. Just back up the original files first. The respective folders are in the Kodiak's "..../SimObjects/Airplanes/ folder".  I have not found in MSFS aircraft how to change the initial fuel load.

Open the spoiler window below for an example.

  Reveal hidden contents

[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
max_gross_weight = 7255
empty_weight = 3950
reference_datum_position = 5.82, 0, 0
empty_weight_cg_position = -6.327459, 0, 0.5
cg_forward_limit = 0.14
cg_aft_limit = 0.4
empty_weight_pitch_moi = 5281.600098
empty_weight_roll_moi = 3478.600098
empty_weight_yaw_moi = 7032.799805
empty_weight_coupled_moi = 300
activate_mach_limit_based_on_cg = 0
activate_cg_limit_based_on_mach = 0
max_number_of_stations = 14
station_load.0 = 230, -3.159999, -1.5, 1, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.PILOT, 1
station_load.1 = 190, -3.159999, 1.5, 1, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.COPILOT, 2
station_load.2 = 180, -6.29, -1.5, 1, Row 1 Left, 0
station_load.3 = 192, -6.29, 1.5, 1, Row 1 Right, 0
station_load.4 = 130, -8.87, -1.5, 1, Row 2 Left, 0
station_load.5 = 130, -8.87, 1.5, 1, Row 2 Right, 0
station_load.6 = 135, -11.457, -1.5, 1, Row 3 Left, 0
station_load.7 = 128, -11.457, 1.5, 1, Row 3 Right, 0
station_load.8 = 0, -14.04, -1.5, 1, Row 4 Left, 0
station_load.9 = 0, -14.04, 1.5, 1, Row 4 Right, 0
station_load.10 = 60, -16.69, 0, 0.7, Cargo shelf Max 200lb, 6
station_load.11 = 128, -2.167, 0, -2.956, Cargo bay 1 Max 290lb, 6 ;TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.CARGO_POD_1
station_load.12 = 70, -6.27, 0, -2.956, Cargo bay 2 Max 280lb, 6 ;TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.CARGO_POD_2
station_load.13 = 80, -9.23, 0, -2.956, Cargo bay 3 Max 180lb, 6 ;TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.CARGO_POD_3
 

 

You quoted something someone else said with my name at he top. I never have a problem loading the Kodiak from the startup screen only. 

30 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

IIs patch out yet?

What is wrong with the ILS, I use it all the time, zero problems?

 

1 minute ago, Bobsk8 said:

What is wrong with the ILS, I use it all the time, zero problems?

 

I think you replied to a wrong person lol I was asking about patch lol

1 minute ago, sd_flyer said:

I think you replied to a wrong person lol I was asking about patch lol

I replied to your question above where you asked if the ILS patch was out yet????

3 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

You quoted something someone else said with my name at he top. I never have a problem loading the Kodiak from the startup screen only. 

Sorry.  Have no ideal how it happened that way.  I quoted each of you.  I just edited the post manually.

1 minute ago, Bobsk8 said:

I replied to your question above where you asked if the ILS patch was out yet????

Appears he intended to type "Is" not ILS.

1 minute ago, fppilot said:

Appears he intended to type "Is" not ILS.

Ok, that makes sense. 

3 hours ago, MarkW said:

All good stuff.  I wish they would build their own pax/cargo loader.  I never seem to have success with the MSFS version.  I load the pilot and co-pilot in the startup screen and then once the aircraft if loaded in the sim, I open up the W&B to load more.  Never seems to work right and animations are not correct for what I have loaded.

You have to add the weights and check the balance directly from the flight selection menu, to the top left, together with the selection of the livery and any other configuration you want to apply (like registration, for instance). You'll never miss your co-pilot and passengers doing this way.

23 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I replied to your question above where you asked if the ILS patch was out yet????

Sorry I was typing too fast "Is patch out yet" LOL