Just Flight Bae 146 update

[Republic DC9 234]

10 hours ago, 454TH said:

You can try the free PMS 750 (tool bar) gps.  Do your FP in Simbrief  and download to FMS and MSFS

This worked great thank you - the GPS map I tuck down in the bottom right corner and it thankfully disappears in external view.

I like having the reassurance of actually seeing the magenta line on screen.

[xender 459]

Hey @Martyn JF i dont know if im doing something wrong here but the plane is unflyable for me since i cant get the correct trim setting. Setting it with a wheel on my throttle i can only get full up or full down but nothing in between 😕

 

[sniper31 638]

Can anyone tell me where the Just Flight 146 tutorial flight is saved to that is mentioned in the manual page 182? It tells you to load said flight from the World Map screen but it does not say where it was saved to during the install process? I have looked all over and cannot find it.

[bendead 1,085]

A good video about the TMS :

 

 

[Fielder 3,679]

^ Yes, video by the chief andrologist at the Mayo Clinic.

[IrfanAhmed 47]

Is there a guide for key bindings or a 146 profile for the Logitech X-52? 

[rick celik 1,243]

Really enjoying this bad boy, just a few little issues:

• The plane swerves side to side on LNAV happened on the way to Brisbane from Sydney. 
• The ailerons and elevators seem to change shading in certain angles? (see screenshot) white in some angles but metal in some? or is this just how msfs renders bare metal?

Not sure if they've been logged as bugs yet?

Edited May 1, 2022 by Ridvan Celik

[Kopteeni 819]

Has anyone given this plane a go in VR? I'd appreciate any experiences related to the usability aspects as there seems to be a number of finicky little switches and gauges in the cockpit.

[sim4good 37]

2 minutes ago, Kopteeni said:

Has anyone given this plane a go in VR? I'd appreciate any experiences related to the usability aspects as there seems to be a number of finicky little switches and gauges in the cockpit.

I'm flying in VR (can't fly anymore in 2D!).  The plane is great in VR.  It has VR zoom which for a large cockpit is essential.  I set up cockpit cameras at various postions in the cockpit for the overhead panel. FMS etc... and I control those using voice attack.  It will look as good as your hardware and settings allow.  For my PC and headset it is graphically a stunning plane, both exterior and cockpit. 

I compared it to the MD82 in VR and the 146 is streaks ahead with the cockpit visuals and sounds.  Both are high fidelity planes for systems and flight modelling.  Buying the BAE146 over the MD82, if it came to a choice for you, was the right way to go.  Maybe the MD82 will improve in the areas of cockpit visuals and sounds, but the king at the moment is this plane.  The plane for a glass cockpit, auto throttle I would get next is the PMDG 737. The BAE is steam gauge heaven and different enough (regional routes) to compliment the 737.  Lets hope PMDG release this week!

[AJZip 251]

30 minutes ago, Kopteeni said:

Has anyone given this plane a go in VR? I'd appreciate any experiences related to the usability aspects as there seems to be a number of finicky little switches and gauges in the cockpit.

Yes - I'm VR only too.  Superb visuals.  Other than one of Just Flight's other models I fly in X-plane, the Avro Vulcan B2 (please, please, please, Just Flight.  I'll wait a year but Pleeeeeeaaasseee!!!), which is a truly 'blow your socks off' VR experience, oh, and their Warrior...oh, and their Arrow... it's my favourite VR cockpit yet. 🙂

But yes, getting the VR mouse to hover over exactly the right place on some of the smaller switches is a bit of a learned skill and controllers aren't supported yet.

 

[orchestra_nl 931]

8 hours ago, xender said:

Hey @Martyn JF i dont know if im doing something wrong here but the plane is unflyable for me since i cant get the correct trim setting. Setting it with a wheel on my throttle i can only get full up or full down but nothing in between 😕

 

what kind of trim wheel do you use, and do you assign it ax an axis?

e.g. the trim wheel on the Honeycomb Bravo should not be assigned as a trim axis but as trim up/down buttons instead.

[keithb77 308]

14 hours ago, dobee51 said:

The first time I went from the cockpit into the cabin, I was so disappointed because it wasn't there. I could see through the walls to the outside. Later I loaded a different livery and checked it using the drone camera, and there was a full cockpit, very nicely done. But I still couldn't get there from the cockpit. Still disappointed...

That's security for you, only allowed out with an escort/bodyguard, which isn't provided...

[Martyn JF 388]

Hi all. A new update is available, primarily targeted at fixing the trim axis issue:

v1.2:

* Trim axis controls (elevator, aileron, rudder) - fixed

* EFB fixes, including Navigraph authentication issue

* NO SMOKING switch label typo - fixed

* HSI course indication changing when there’s no electrical power - fixed

* New JF_146.ini option added:

[HARDWARE]

THR_LATCH=0

‘0’ is the default value and is compatible with the Honeycomb hardware. Changing that manually to ‘1’ (make sure the aircraft isn’t loaded at the time) will provide compatibility with the TCA hardware

Martyn - Just Flight

[Jonathan1892 0]

Great aircraft, having a lot of fun with it so far. 

Not sure if I am the only one experiencing this, but the default honeycomb bravo autopilot bindings seem to mess with the BAEs AP though. The bravo uses the "SELECT AIRSPEED/ALTITUDE BUG" and then miscellaneous "PLUS"/"MINUS" bindings 
With IAS mode negaged, turning the speed bug with the bravo knob seems to also change the speed that the AP is tracking, while it is my understanding that you should only be able to change it using sync mode - turning the speed bug know should not impact the AP. The same thing also happens with the altitude knob. When in ALT HOLD, changing the selected altitude with the bravo will send the BAE up/down trying to capture that new selected altitude. Using the mouse and turning the virtual knob does not trigger this behavior, the airplane remains steady at the held altitude.

I suppose that the (temporary) fix is quite easy - dont use the physical buttons, but it would be great to fix this (assuming I am not mesing things up of course). Anyone else experiencing the same thing? Or should the bindings be changed to something else?

[Kopteeni 819]

1 hour ago, sim4good said:

I'm flying in VR (can't fly anymore in 2D!).  The plane is great in VR.  It has VR zoom which for a large cockpit is essential.  I set up cockpit cameras at various postions in the cockpit for the overhead panel. FMS etc... and I control those using voice attack.  It will look as good as your hardware and settings allow.  For my PC and headset it is graphically a stunning plane, both exterior and cockpit. 

I compared it to the MD82 in VR and the 146 is streaks ahead with the cockpit visuals and sounds.  Both are high fidelity planes for systems and flight modelling.  Buying the BAE146 over the MD82, if it came to a choice for you, was the right way to go.  Maybe the MD82 will improve in the areas of cockpit visuals and sounds, but the king at the moment is this plane.  The plane for a glass cockpit, auto throttle I would get next is the PMDG 737. The BAE is steam gauge heaven and different enough (regional routes) to compliment the 737.  Lets hope PMDG release this week!

Thanks for the info, that all sounds promising. I haven't played around with the preset camera positions and voice commands, it's something I definately need to look into.

Yes, so far Bae is ahead in my purchase list compared to the md80 (even when MD80 as a real world plane interests me quite a bit more than Bae-146). I feel like Leonardo needs to work on their cockpit texturing and the sound department to deliver a good VR experience.