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Report Cessna 414AW Chancellor issues

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1 hour ago, ark said:

Actually, it was a reflections related issue of some kind. No adjustment to the physical alignment of the spinners was necessary.

Al

Whatever. I don't know about these things, only what I see. And what I see is lovely! 😀

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15 hours ago, Sender46 said:

Is anybody else finding they float a long way when landing with Beta_1.5.0_Hotfix?  Even with just a pilot and 80% fuel, touching down at just 80 KIAS I'm still floating a long way.

And with T/O trim set, it lifts off below 90 KIAS with no back pressure at all on the yoke.

I noticed this as well. Only since 1.5.0

Anton von Sierakowski (YBDG) Rig: ASUS Gryphon Z87 TUF Micro-ATX; i7 4770K 4.3GHz 16Gb RAM, RTX2060 6Gb, 1Tb SSD boot, 2Tb SSD MFS2020, 250Gb SSD Spare. 4Gb HDD. Saitek X55/rudders. GA and light Jet flyer.

After several flights today with beta 1.5.0 I can confirm that the left engine EGT stays at Zero. I see that this issue has been reported earlier.

Edited by antonvs

Anton von Sierakowski (YBDG) Rig: ASUS Gryphon Z87 TUF Micro-ATX; i7 4770K 4.3GHz 16Gb RAM, RTX2060 6Gb, 1Tb SSD boot, 2Tb SSD MFS2020, 250Gb SSD Spare. 4Gb HDD. Saitek X55/rudders. GA and light Jet flyer.

Also with 1.5.0, the change log says the altitude capture 300ft above selected altitude is fixed in the GTN750 and it doesn’t seem to be.

A

The operation of the auxiliary fuel pumps is incorrect.

When switched to the ON position, they should only run at high speed if the associated engine-driven fuel pump is not working (but they currently run at high speed even with the engine running).  When switched to the ON position with the associated engine running, they should run at low speed and automatically switch to high speed if the associated engine-driven fuel pump fails.

See extract from the POH:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9z906au3xyvlu19/Aux Fuel Pumps.png?dl=0

Flying in some directions with the HSI and VOR 2 on the same nav frequencies, when the HSI CDI is lined up, the VOR 2 CDI isn't.  I don't know if VOR 2 was tweaked when the accuracy of the HSI was tweaked but there is still a small error on VOR 2 (not much but enough to be annoying):

Point reading: 0              Tail reading: 181

Point reading: 30            Tail reading: 211

Point reading: 60           Tail reading: 241

Point reading: 90           Tail reading: 270

Point reading: 120         Tail reading: 300

Point reading: 150         Tail reading: 330

The dynamics particularly on landing are virtually uncontrollable at the moment. It’s the jerky control movements as yet not recitified (and still present on takeoff roll too) and virtually no braking effectiveness - I nearly came off the end of the runway going into EGBJ yesterday.

A

2 hours ago, rondon9898 said:

I nearly came off the end of the runway going into EGBJ yesterday.

Sounds like a case of 'too fast' 😀

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According to the sim the cruise speed for the C414 is 230knts, TAS

Overspeed warning kick in at around  235-240 knts TAS

However the the airspeed indicator  show that overspeed is near 300knts TAS,

what is the correct "never exceed speed" should be explained.

for those who use the C414 as part of a fleet in AIRHAULER  on ONAIR can quckly be penalized which such a narrow Vc and Vne speeds

 

haga2000

1 hour ago, haga2000 said:

According to the sim the cruise speed for the C414 is 230knts, TAS

Overspeed warning kick in at around  235-240 knts TAS

However the the airspeed indicator  show that overspeed is near 300knts TAS,

what is the correct "never exceed speed" should be explained.

for those who use the C414 as part of a fleet in AIRHAULER  on ONAIR can quckly be penalized which such a narrow Vc and Vne speeds

 

haga2000

Not sure where you are seeing 300 knots TAS, as the gauge doesn't go up that far. 

The airspeed indicator shows the maximum speed for all operations (i.e. never exceed speed) is about 231 KIAS.  The POH says 237 KIAS:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5efx9c011ify1c1/Airspeed Indicator Table.png?dl=0

The picture in the Milviz (oops, I mean FSW) manual shows it as about 226 KIAS.

The POH will be correct.  I'm wondering what speed Milviz have used in the modelling?

Note that KIAS is used - the corresponding TAS will vary depending on altitude and temperature.

Edited by Sender46

5 hours ago, Sender46 said:

Flying in some directions with the HSI and VOR 2 on the same nav frequencies, when the HSI CDI is lined up, the VOR 2 CDI isn't.  I don't know if VOR 2 was tweaked when the accuracy of the HSI was tweaked but there is still a small error on VOR 2 (not much but enough to be annoying):

Point reading: 0              Tail reading: 181

Point reading: 30            Tail reading: 211

Point reading: 60           Tail reading: 241

Point reading: 90           Tail reading: 270

Point reading: 120         Tail reading: 300

Point reading: 150         Tail reading: 330

This seems inconsequential to me given VORs only need to be accurate to + - 4 degrees for IFR flight.

Al

Edited by ark

16 minutes ago, ark said:

This seems inconsequential to me given VORs only need to be accurate to + - 4 degrees for IFR flight.

Al

Fair comment.  I guess it just bugs me that the CDIs don't line up together.

Edited by Sender46

40 minutes ago, Sender46 said:

Not sure where you are seeing 300 knots TAS, as the gauge doesn't go up that far. 

The airspeed indicator shows the maximum speed for all operations (i.e. never exceed speed) is about 231 KIAS.  The POH says 237 KIAS:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5efx9c011ify1c1/Airspeed Indicator Table.png?dl=0

The picture in the Milviz (oops, I mean FSW) manual shows it as about 226 KIAS.

The POH will be correct.  I'm wondering what speed Milviz have used in the modelling?

Note that KIAS is used - the corresponding TAS will vary depending on altitude and temperature.

1) open msfs and select C414, Cruise speed is listed as 230knots only 7 knots below the the Vne speed of 237, follwing what is listed at start up you are in danger of   excceding the Vne

2  turn on all warnings im msfs and make a test flight at eg. FL 200 to 250 cruise levels, accelerate and record when overspeed warning kick in.

thanks for the fig from the POH,it should have been listed in the C414 manual

 

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