Try DCS if want best heli.

 

35 minutes ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Try DCS if want best heli.

 

You didn't read the OP's first post, did you? 😂

R44/AirlandFS ... tame and lame (with very little inside the Robbie reflecting reality) 😴

H145 ... nice system depth and detailed modelling, tame flight model (slightly better with AirlandFS but has bug issues) 😑

H47 ... very good representation of an early-era combustion helicopter. Good and demanding flight model 🤠

I have the FlyInside Bell 47 G and never tried any of the AirLand-based models.

It's nice to have, but doesn't compare to the experience ( even with the required margins due to being such different aircraft ) between the helicopters in DCS, or even a similar model for X-Plane that includes a core rotary wing flight dynamics model. Actually the best experience I have ever had when it comes to helis was X-Plane and a spevcific model for Flight Gear, together with the UH-1H for DCS.

Looking fwd for the rotary FDM in MFS. OI am sure it'll make a whole lot of a difference.

Bell 47 and R44  are where it's at if the most important thing to you is the flight model. the H125 is now coming along nicely as well. Bear in mind the 44 and 125 are both very much work in progress but they are free and being heavily worked on with regular updates.

H145 is the best environment to be in, every version of it is beautiful inside and out and has loads of fancy systems but if you're coming from DCS i suspect you're going to be sorely disappointed with the flight model.  Dont believe the err...Hype

I have many hundreds of hours in the  47, 44 and 125..   The 145 gets its customary 30 min test flight with each update then goes back in the hangar.

 

You have nothing to lose trying the R44.   If you're opening your wallet the it has to be the the 47G, it's absolutely fantastic.

 

Edited March 25, 20224 yr by The Moose

4 hours ago, lupedelupe said:

You didn't read the OP's first post, did you? 😂

R44/AirlandFS ... tame and lame (with very little inside the Robbie reflecting reality) 😴

H145 ... nice system depth and detailed modelling, tame flight model (slightly better with AirlandFS but has bug issues) 😑

H47 ... very good representation of an early-era combustion helicopter. Good and demanding flight model 🤠

Yeah I read it its not a concern at the moment on a platform that don't support it.  get it. Ok back to GA. Trees extended and hopefully some day some reliable IFR big birds.

Edited March 25, 20224 yr by jbdbow1970

25 minutes ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Yeah I read it its not a concern at the moment on a platform that don't support it.  get it. Ok back to GA. Trees extended and hopefully some day some reliable IFR big birds.

What I meant is the OP stated he/she uses helis in DCS. 😉

Just a point of order,  the H145 supports AirlandFS.   It's just not the default flight model.   You give up the AP and AFCS with Airland.

I like the Luxury version with it's inflatable floatation.

The Action Pack is one more reason to buy the H145,

 

Edited March 25, 20224 yr by Waldo Pepper

@CanadaOne I think we are about in the same boat. My first good experience with Helicopters was the Dodosim Bell, but it got more interesting in DCS. There I fell in love with them! I have the Shark, the Hip and the Huey and of those 3 the Huey just did it for me. It is a simple Helicopter, but an absolut blast to fly. Although to this day it lacks a few basics like a correctly working Governour and Hotstarts which we had in FSX already, but from a flying perspective it is the perfect Helicopter for me. On one hand you have to be careful because of mast bumping and VRS especially during the Transitional lift phase, but if you have some practice you can do some wild and very precise flying and having the DCS Huey with its flight dynamics in MSFS where I can explore the whole world is a dream that will probably stay a dream for a while.

I tried some of the free Helis in MSFS with Airland FS (R44, H125 and the Huey) and although they somehow helped me to get my Heli fix for a bit, I am still looking forward to later this year when MSFS should get native Heli Support. I hope it is as good as in DCS and that someone will make a very good Huey 🙂

I know of the other Helis people mention here, but I can not bring myself to pay Money just to try them out, so I wait for official support and see what the Market delivers.

2 hours ago, buedi said:

@CanadaOne I think we are about in the same boat. My first good experience with Helicopters was the Dodosim Bell, but it got more interesting in DCS. There I fell in love with them! I have the Shark, the Hip and the Huey and of those 3 the Huey just did it for me. It is a simple Helicopter, but an absolut blast to fly. Although to this day it lacks a few basics like a correctly working Governour and Hotstarts which we had in FSX already, but from a flying perspective it is the perfect Helicopter for me. On one hand you have to be careful because of mast bumping and VRS especially during the Transitional lift phase, but if you have some practice you can do some wild and very precise flying and having the DCS Huey with its flight dynamics in MSFS where I can explore the whole world is a dream that will probably stay a dream for a while.

I tried some of the free Helis in MSFS with Airland FS (R44, H125 and the Huey) and although they somehow helped me to get my Heli fix for a bit, I am still looking forward to later this year when MSFS should get native Heli Support. I hope it is as good as in DCS and that someone will make a very good Huey 🙂

I know of the other Helis people mention here, but I can not bring myself to pay Money just to try them out, so I wait for official support and see what the Market delivers.

 

Agreed. I do want that chopper fix, but it would be nice if the sim actually supports it firsthand, so to speak. 

 

In DCS it's all about the Blackshark for me. I have the Huey, Apache, and Hind, but the Blackshark is where I live. 

https://flightsim.to/file/8970/airbus-h135-helicopter-project

The H145 is nice but needs some optimization.

As a big helo fan and also with an appreciation of the DCS UH-1 Huey I am convinced that right now with helos in MSFS, it's a case of "you get what you pay for". 

The R44, H125 and others with Airland FS are nice but they are not yet finished projects.  And have highly variable results depending on who's AirLandFS profile you use.  Even the R44 has a "blue" and a "black" profile depending on the controllers you have - but the end result is night and day difference between the two.  Which one is "correct"?

The HPG H135 has been around a while and is a good effort at trying to emulate rotary wing flight using the native flight model.  The H145 (which is a self-admitted work in progress nearing, but not yet at, completion) takes it several steps further through the automation and stability features of the real H145, to the point that emulating real-world rotary wing dynamics is moot - instead you get a host of really unique features aimed at simplifying your life and .

But at the end of the day, taking off in the Bell 47 and completing a planned cross-country flight along the coastline or wherever, maintaining a given altitude and setting down at the exact spot I intended to at the destination, is an extremely gratifying accomplishment that gives me every bit of the needed helo fix and more.  

The free stuff is much appreciated and good for exploring the middle-of-the road options but only give a taste of an appreciation for the capabilities of the current payware efforts.

41 minutes ago, Stoopy said:

 

But at the end of the day, taking off in the Bell 47 and completing a planned cross-country flight along the coastline or wherever, maintaining a given altitude and setting down at the exact spot I intended to at the destination, is an extremely gratifying accomplishment that gives me every bit of the needed helo fix and more.  

 

Couldn't have said it any better.   Agree with every word of that 🙂

I can see this thread is going to cost me some $$.

Is the quality of the modeling of the Flyinside Bell 47 up to par? It looks a bit cartoony in some of the screen shots I saw.

Edited March 26, 20224 yr by odourboy

14 hours ago, odourboy said:

Is the quality of the modeling of the Flyinside Bell 47 up to par? It looks a bit cartoony in some of the screen shots I saw.

I find the quality of the modeling on the Bell 47 to be very high and quite detailed.   If it looks a little cartoony I think that's only because the real thing is a little bit that way, with that big bubble plexiglass.  At least it's not quite as goony-lookin' as a Hughes 300.