May 1, 20224 yr I could handle a couple of weeks of flaps 30 landings. Just saying.., i9-10850K, ASUS TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS (WI-FI), 32GB G.SKILL DDR4-3603 / PC4-28800, GIGABYTE RTX5080 16GB WF OC 3 FAN running 3440x1440
May 1, 20224 yr 7 hours ago, JRBarrett said: It would be like an auto manufacturer selling a car with a known 0.5 percent chance that the front wheels might come off at highway speed. Anything above 0.0 percent chance would be unacceptable. No it’s not like that at all. The car is real, the plane is not. Nobody will die of a sim crash. also, you have been driving automobiles your entire life, and every single one of them has had a non-zero chance of having a catastrophic incident. Just saying…
May 1, 20224 yr 21 hours ago, ah2511 said: Reading RSRs update it sounds like some help from Asobo is needed - voting up the below might help expedite things. https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/pmdg-737-landing-bug/514564 It looks like Asobo don't want your votes... 🙂 Oz Sim Rig: MSI RTX3090 Suprim, an old, partly-melted Intel 9900K @ 5GHz+, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder, Warthog HOTAS, Reverb G2, Prosim 737 cockpit. Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777. "There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are."
May 1, 20224 yr PMDG infers that release is imminent, everyone gets excited, and then there is a delay...oh, I am so surprised. It'll come one day, but you never want to hold your breath with a PMDG release. Hype --> Delay --> Hype -->Delay...(x months/years)........-->Release. That is PMDG SOP. Lots of other good aircraft to fly right now. Another day, sometime in the future, we'll have a 737-700. And then I'll fly that a lot, but I'm not going to sit around waiting. Oz Sim Rig: MSI RTX3090 Suprim, an old, partly-melted Intel 9900K @ 5GHz+, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder, Warthog HOTAS, Reverb G2, Prosim 737 cockpit. Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777. "There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are."
May 1, 20224 yr 50 minutes ago, OzWhitey said: PMDG infers that release is imminent, everyone gets excited, and then there is a delay...oh, I am so surprised. It'll come one day, but you never want to hold your breath with a PMDG release. Hype --> Delay --> Hype -->Delay...(x months/years)........-->Release. That is PMDG SOP. Lots of other good aircraft to fly right now. Another day, sometime in the future, we'll have a 737-700. And then I'll fly that a lot, but I'm not going to sit around waiting. Many are enjoying the Maddog X and some BAE 146. Only complaint from me is the sounds in the MD80 needs to be boosted up even if it is not realistic. Message to PMDG take your time get your word not allowed together we actually have some serious airline birds in our hands at the moment.
May 2, 20224 yr 5 hours ago, MDFlier said: I could handle a couple of weeks of flaps 30 landings. Just saying.., My point exactly. It could be weeks for PMDG to find and fix one big. And if it only showed up recently, they simply do not have enough beta testers. Edited May 2, 20224 yr by Boomer
May 2, 20224 yr 11 hours ago, JRBarrett said: Minor “quality of life” bugs that don’t affect the sim’s operation should not delay release, but this is not a minor bug. It is a major show-stopper issue. It may only happen under rare conditions, but that would be scant comfort to end-users who are affected. Can you imagine the hue and cry that would result if a brand-new PMDG customer’s 737 flipped upside down on landing at the end of a 4-hour flight, and the customer found out that PMDG was aware of that possibility and did nothing to correct it? It would be irresponsible for any developer with an ounce of integrity to release a product to market with this kind of major lurking bug. I want to fly the 737 as much as you do, but if it takes three more weeks of work to find and definitely fix the issue, so be it. I (personally) would be perfectly willing to take the aircraft “as is” today and take my chances, but other customers would not be so understanding -especially those who are new to PMDG and the 737. Knowing RSR, he will not release the plane unless he is satisfied this bug has been fixed - either by PMDG or Asobo, nor should he. It would be like an auto manufacturer selling a car with a known 0.5 percent chance that the front wheels might come off at highway speed. Anything above 0.0 percent chance would be unacceptable. Sorry. Disagree. It is not a "show stopper", dont use 40 flaps for now. It could take weeks for PMDG to find and fix a single bug. They obviously do not have enough beta testers if it only showed up recently.
May 2, 20224 yr 2 hours ago, OzWhitey said: PMDG infers that release is imminent, *implies….. i910900k, RTX 3090, 32GB DDR4 RAM, AW3423DW, Ruddy girt big mug of Yorkshire Tea
May 2, 20224 yr 23 minutes ago, scotchegg said: *implies….. Goddamnit, I was thinking of your last correction when I posted… …hmm, Scotch says the right word is “infers”…I think…yes, that sounds right. 🙂 To be fair, it was 6am and I’d been up all night again flying the Maddog… Edited May 2, 20224 yr by OzWhitey Oz Sim Rig: MSI RTX3090 Suprim, an old, partly-melted Intel 9900K @ 5GHz+, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder, Warthog HOTAS, Reverb G2, Prosim 737 cockpit. Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777. "There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are."
May 2, 20224 yr So Randazzo implies that it will be released next weekend - or at least that’s what many have inferred from his comment. I’ll bet anyone here a dollar that it’s not released next weekend. In fact, I posted up thread that you need to multiply his suggested timeframe by three , and then add two weeks. ‘By that highly scientific metric, you’ll have a 737-700 for MSFS in 5 weeks. Oz Sim Rig: MSI RTX3090 Suprim, an old, partly-melted Intel 9900K @ 5GHz+, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder, Warthog HOTAS, Reverb G2, Prosim 737 cockpit. Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777. "There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are."
May 2, 20224 yr Could be a bigger bug but I never go flaps 40 on landing anyway so it would not bother me.
May 2, 20224 yr 6 hours ago, OzWhitey said: I’ll bet anyone here a dollar that it’s not released next weekend. June. Unless some other bug is discovered. Hint: if you look hard enough you always find them. Edited May 2, 20224 yr by Boomer
May 2, 20224 yr 7 hours ago, OzWhitey said: So Randazzo implies that it will be released next weekend - or at least that’s what many have inferred from his comment. Except, as so often happens, that is NOT what he said. He is probably the most misinterpreted developer out there. SM is littered with people saying he's announced a release date and he just hasn't. Just like all the people who say they know the price of it. RSR knows he gets hopelessly misinterpreted so he picks his words carefully. FYI, he said he hoped we would have it BY next weekend with the usual caveat that it might not be if they find an issue. Bill Casey
May 2, 20224 yr I’ll sit this one out, will wait long after release before making purchase decision, & wait for choice of variants to actually be made available…
May 2, 20224 yr 2 hours ago, BillC said: Except, as so often happens, that is NOT what he said. He is probably the most misinterpreted developer out there. SM is littered with people saying he's announced a release date and he just hasn't. Just like all the people who say they know the price of it. RSR knows he gets hopelessly misinterpreted so he picks his words carefully. FYI, he said he hoped we would have it BY next weekend with the usual caveat that it might not be if they find an issue. I never said that he gave a release date - that's the almost the opposite of what I said, perhaps you need to go back and actually read my post. Randazzo is always careful with his words. It's been the same for as long as I can remember, and I've been flying PMDG since FS9. He never gives an actual release date. But he deliberately chooses language that strongly insinuates that the product will come out in a near-future timeframe. A timeframe that is generally massively inaccurate - remember, based on statements from PMDG, people have been expecting an imminent release for about 18 months now. The NGXu was largely sold on the basis of its upgrade potential to the just-around-the-corner MSFS 737. It's a very transparent form of hype-based marketing. I'm personally pretty over it, but if you go back and read 18 months of 737 forum posts you'll see that it almost always works in terms of making the PMDG product the focus of the conversation. Oz Sim Rig: MSI RTX3090 Suprim, an old, partly-melted Intel 9900K @ 5GHz+, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder, Warthog HOTAS, Reverb G2, Prosim 737 cockpit. Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777. "There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are."
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