Purchasing Scenery from Marketplace? Recommend?

[micstatic 4,315]

4 hours ago, rka said:

Not buying on the marketplace means possibly large amounts of updaters and updates you have to track by yourself. Check website, download update, rinse, repeat. Launch updater, check for update, rinse, repeat.

With MP you start the sim and click update and you're done.

 

This is true. But those of us who have been doing flight sims for a long time this is a very small cost. Not a pain at all. Compared to waiting weeks for updates. Or worse. Payware airport where you can’t turn off static ai

[Tuskin38 6,457]

14 hours ago, Luis Hernandez said:

And since I use the Steam version, there's no encryption to worry about.

Marketplace purchases on Steam are encrypted. It's the core installation files you're thinking of that aren't encrypted.

Edited September 30, 2022 by Tuskin38

[rka 916]

3 hours ago, micstatic said:

But those of us who have been doing flight sims for a long time this is a very small cost. Not a pain at all.

Speak for yourself, I enjoy the reduced workload the marketplace brings A LOT 🙂

[Bob Scott 7,716]

1 hour ago, rka said:

Speak for yourself, I enjoy the reduced workload the marketplace brings A LOT 🙂

No matter how many times you repeat yourself, there are others who have good reason to see it differently.

The point is that there are quite a few folks who would prefer to accept some minor inconvenience and added maintenance workload if it allows them to gain some flexibility beyond being stuck with encrypted, hard-coded stock configurations.  Those people enjoy that flexibility A LOT, too.

 

[rka 916]

5 minutes ago, Bob Scott said:

No matter how many times you repeat yourself, there are others who have good reason to see it differently.

The point is that there are quite a few folks who would prefer to accept some minor inconvenience and added maintenance workload if it allows them to gain some flexibility beyond being stuck with encrypted, hard-coded stock configurations.  Those people enjoy that flexibility A LOT, too.

 

I was just responding to a generalizing, incorrent statement which was a direct response to my comment. But thank you for your friendly moderation.

[TrafficPilot 121]

I haven't bought many add-ons. Am waiting to see if Asobo bother to fix stuff first.

I bought one aircraft - the Carenado V35 - from the marketplace (I don't think it was available anywhere else) and it automatically got installed straight into my community folder which I didn't want (I use the addon linker to save loading time etc).

I prefer to support developers directly without Microsoft taking a percentage. They're rich enough as it is.

[Tuskin38 6,457]

22 minutes ago, TrafficPilot said:

I bought one aircraft - the Carenado V35 - from the marketplace (I don't think it was available anywhere else) and it automatically got installed straight into my community folder

Marketplace downloads get put in the 'Official' folder, not the 'Community' folder.

But yeah, Carenado only sells their products on the marketplace.

Edited September 30, 2022 by Tuskin38

[OverTheEDJ 266]

10 hours ago, rka said:

Not buying on the marketplace means possibly large amounts of updaters and updates you have to track by yourself. Check website, download update, rinse, repeat. Launch updater, check for update, rinse, repeat.

With MP you start the sim and click update and you're done.

 

Some stores do not have notifications to tell you if a addon has been updated. I have to literally go to my account, look up my downloads and compare exe name for the version # (if the dev explicitly includes it there) or download the addon to see if there is a readme to version text file.

I stay with the MP or OrbxDirect, unless there is an addon that is not sold on these 2 stores. But ultimately, I wish everything was sold through the MP...one and done.

 

17 minutes ago, TrafficPilot said:

I prefer to support developers directly without Microsoft taking a percentage. They're rich enough as it is.

If I was a developer (particularly a small unknown developer), the exposure that I would get from having my product on the MP (millions of potential buyers) vs my own website (little visibility, maintenance, piracy protection concerns etc.) would be worth the percentage that MS takes. I would only sell through the MP.

I believe that FSReborn (Sting S4) gave similar thoughts as to why he only sells through the MP.

 

 

 

 

[rka 916]

@OverTheEDJ I agree. The best support a developer can possibly get is selling on the marketplace just through the sheer exposure. I would as well sell through the marketplace only. And even though in likely many cases even steam and ms both take their cut, we see lower prices than before. That's a win-win in my book.

[turbomax 3,269]

21 hours ago, Luis Hernandez said:

And since I use the Steam version, there's no encryption to worry about.

sure sceneries are not encrypted? I suppose the same is not true for 3rd party aircraft?

[Dave_YVR 968]

22 hours ago, Luis Hernandez said:

And since I use the Steam version, there's no encryption to worry about.

Marketplace sceneries are encrypted if you use Steam or not.

[TrafficPilot 121]

4 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

Marketplace downloads get put in the 'Official' folder, not the 'Community' folder.

But yeah, Carenado only sells their products on the marketplace.

I stand corrected thank you. I always switch addon's in the linker so assumed (a bad word in aviation) that the V35 was also in my community folder. Ooops.

[Luis Hernandez 568]

17 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

Marketplace sceneries are encrypted if you use Steam or not.

I stand corrected, partially: I checked the two sceneries I have (for each of my home airports): while I can see all the textures used; I can't see any BGLs at all. I guess these ones are encrypted.

18 hours ago, turbomax said:

I suppose the same is not true for 3rd party aircraft?

I'm not sure: I can see several CFGs, but not aircraft.cfg, engines.cfg, flight:model.cfg or systems.cfg. I guess MS encrypted these ones.

Anyway, the last times I messed with aircraft.cfg files (in P3D) were for adding liveries or custom cameras. It's been a long time since I tweaked FDE or something like that (back in my FS9 days).

Edited October 1, 2022 by Luis Hernandez