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CPU Upgrade Advice.

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6 hours ago, Dreamflight767 said:

Is AMD still making the Ryzen 7 5800x3D, 9 5900X, or 9 5950X?  Just seems like a lot of places are out.

Thanks.

You can find the 5800x3D on Ebay from reputable sellers, like Ant Online.
 

AMD 5800x | Nvidia 3080 (12gb) | 64gb ram

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31 minutes ago, Alpine Scenery said:

I rarely use VR anymore, it's rough on my eyes. I like it, but my eyes do not.

That is why I quit VR. Felt like I had forgotten to wear my glasses every time. 

16 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

That is why I quit VR. Felt like I had forgotten to wear my glasses every time. 

that is why I have custom-made glasses in my HP G2 headset, not as good as normal reading but 1000% better immersion than 2D monitor for me. sitting IN the cockpit instead of INFRONT of the cockpit:

https://vroptician.com/

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

1 hour ago, turbomax said:

that is why I have custom-made glasses in my HP G2 headset, not as good as normal reading but 1000% better immersion than 2D monitor for me. sitting IN the cockpit instead of INFRONT of the cockpit:

https://vroptician.com/

Tried them, sweet spot on G2 is still not good/large enough. Until we have monitor type quality in VR, I am happy with 2D. Seems like the VR technology has stagnated rather a little, not progressing as fast as maybe I thought it would. 

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

22 hours ago, FBW737 said:

On my TV Judder reduction works seems to work at any supported refresh up to up to 50hz. If I set the refresh rate to 60hz the TV turns judder reduction off automatically. I haven't tried any unsupported refresh rates. I don't think it really matters which Vsync option you use NCP or the in sim graphics setting. Although the in sim graphics Vsync setting will automatically limit your fps to whatever you set the refresh rate to in NCP. Not sure if the same is true of setting Vsync outside the sim.

If you run this setup at 30hz half your frames are from the graphics card and half are generated by the TV's hardware for 60fps on screen. It is crucial that the graphics card delivers 30fps to the TV otherwise you will get stutters. That's a no brainer. So if you pan to fast you will get artifacts. I use TrackIR5 and its a balancing act here. you have to tweak your TIR and your mouse speed and zoom setting in the sim so as not to get artifacts will panning. That's a little work to get right.

On last thing concerning refresh rate. In the air I use 29hz and on Taxi, climb out, approach, landing and taxi to gate I use 23hz. Does that mean I have to pause, hit start, open NCP, set refresh rate, hit apply, close NCP and click resume every time I want to change the refresh rate? No! I use an app called HRC (Hotkey Resolution Changer) which allows me to assign a keyboard shortcut to switch refresh rate on the fly. So on approach at 29hz (58fps) and soon as I see any hint of the FPS dropping below the required level I hit the appropriate key and in an instance switch to 23hz (46fps). The down side is that you get a black screen for a 1/4 second on refresh rate change. everything is pros and cons here.

On my setup with content that will run at 60fps at 60hz the same content looks smoother at 30hz with the judder reduction set to 10 in the TV setting for 60fps. Personally, I cannot discern any lag.

One other thing, I find that it doesn't work well at 50hz for MSFS. even if the scenario allows for 50fps+ from the graphics card I still get stutter even thought the Judder reduction is active. However, not so with Codemasters F1. At 50hz with the judder reduction filter on 10 I'm getting 100fps for the less than the price (hardware impact) of 60fps with out it. And the difference between the two is very obvious. The former being far better.

Here are the spec. Its right in there: https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/030013b1

Well I did some testing in both the Fenix & PMDG yesterday and considering this TU7000 is one of Samsung's entry level TV's using this method is pretty impressive. Yesterday evening I landed in Geneva in the PMDG and from TOD the weather was heavy cloud and rain, very smooth all the way to the gate with traffic as well. This morning I switched to DX12 TAA loaded into Heathrow with FSLTL at default settings. Look at the frame time graph, this is the stock EGLL but at Ultra settings. Will do a few flights in DX12 but so far I am leaning towards adopting this methodology !

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Richard

i7-12700K | Noctua NH-D15S Black Version | MSI Pro Z690 - A | 32 GB DDR4 3600 | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 | 1TB WD Blue NMVe (MSFS 2020) | 500 GB WD Black Gen 4 NVMe | 4TB WD Black Conventional | Fractal Design Torrent Case | Seasonic 1000W Gold Plus PSU | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Honeycomb Throttle | Airbus Side Stick | Virpil Rudder Pedals | Sony X90K 55 Inch TV |

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26 minutes ago, turbomax said:

coming in 2023:

Thank you. I'm still using the Reverb (1) although I wouldn't call image quality sufficient compared to 2D. This new generation looks promising but (i) might require a 2500W GPU (ii) "rich" buyers, which unfortunately doesn't apply to me.

Kind regards, Michael

Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel /  LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440  / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11

Hi all. To avoid opening a new discussion with same title, I'd ask mine question here.

Do you guys think that it is worth to upgrade from a 10600K to a 11700k? I'm running triple screens with a 6700XT, waiting then to upgrade graphic card too after new year.

Thanks all.

41 minutes ago, pmb said:

This new generation looks promising but (i) might require a 2500W GPU

no. Just like the Varjo aero does not.

Edited by turbomax

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

44 minutes ago, ConairMSFS said:

Hi all. To avoid opening a new discussion with same title, I'd ask mine question here.

Do you guys think that it is worth to upgrade from a 10600K to a 11700k? I'm running triple screens with a 6700XT, waiting then to upgrade graphic card too after new year.

Thanks all.

Personally I wouldn't, It might help if you list the rest of your system specs and what resolution you are using

You will probably be better off waiting to see how the new AMD X3D CPU's perform. Even with an i7-12700K it is very easy to hammer the main thread

 

Richard

i7-12700K | Noctua NH-D15S Black Version | MSI Pro Z690 - A | 32 GB DDR4 3600 | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 | 1TB WD Blue NMVe (MSFS 2020) | 500 GB WD Black Gen 4 NVMe | 4TB WD Black Conventional | Fractal Design Torrent Case | Seasonic 1000W Gold Plus PSU | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Honeycomb Throttle | Airbus Side Stick | Virpil Rudder Pedals | Sony X90K 55 Inch TV |

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27 minutes ago, RJC68 said:

Personally I wouldn't, It might help if you list the rest of your system specs and what resolution you are using

You will probably be better off waiting to see how the new AMD X3D CPU's perform. Even with an i7-12700K it is very easy to hammer the main thread

Thanks for your answer.

My system is: Asus Z590-p, 10600K, 32GB ram 3200, M2+SSD, running on triple 32" 4k, 6700XT. Graphic card i know is not the best for this resolution (waiting for amd to release new ones), but downscaling resolution i can keep around 30fps in DX11. Having many stutters/spikes in main thread, and expecially with FBWa320 and FSTL or similar i am very much CPU bounded. Selling my old CPU, I could do it with spending around 200 euros, but if its not worth it, better to wait a little and change all the platform.

think I will sell my 5900xt, buy a 5800x3d, and the beginning next year go 7800X3D and gen 5.

 Rig Specs; CPU AMD Ryzen 9950X3d, GPU 5090 32gb,  Memory 64GB 2x32 CL28 , WD-SN710 Black 500 GB, WD-SN710 Black  2TB, MSI x870XeTomahawk, Be Quit Straight power 1200 Watt platinum. LG Oled C4

 

 

                                                         

4 hours ago, ConairMSFS said:

Hi all. To avoid opening a new discussion with same title, I'd ask mine question here.

Do you guys think that it is worth to upgrade from a 10600K to a 11700k? I'm running triple screens with a 6700XT, waiting then to upgrade graphic card too after new year.

Thanks all.

I'd lean against doing that, unless you can pick up the 11700K cheap. 

13600K or 7800X3D may be worth looking at soon.  The 13600K now, and the 7800X3D in January/February.

Rhett

7800X3D 96 GB G.Skill Flare  Gigabyte 4090  Crucial P5 Plus 2TB

On 11/1/2022 at 7:09 PM, Mace said:

I'd lean against doing that, unless you can pick up the 11700K cheap. 

13600K or 7800X3D may be worth looking at soon.  The 13600K now, and the 7800X3D in January/February.

I think you are right, 11700K would cost me almost same as newer ones. I'll go for a Z690/790 mainboard, and at least a 12600K. Is DDR5 models worth the money, or better to stick to DDR4 ones? I'm out of hardware news since lots of time, sorry. Will upgrade to 7 series amd graphic card when will be available, better feed it right.

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