13 minutes ago, sniper31 said:

I use an Artic Liquid Freezer II 420mm AIO cooler. BUT, it's not just a good cooler that helps keep my temps down. I focus very hard on cooling for my PC builds. So, that means a case with exceptional airflow, some good case fans with a proper push and pull setup for great airflow and balanced air pressurization. The cooler is just one important cog in the whole cooling machine when you start to run high end CPU's and GPU's. Often times, PC builders don't focus enough on the case and fan setup. When budgeting a PC build, the case and fans are an afterthought or way down the priority list for many users/builders. For my builds, case and fans are at the top of my build list.

Thanks. 

I wil start building using the corsair 5000D airflow.  

1 hour ago, sniper31 said:

For my builds, case and fans are at the top of my build list.

Me 2.  I went w/ Phanteks which I bought because it has substantial floor fans w/ filters, and my PC case sits directly atop a floor vent to our basement so the PC and its case get cool are 365/yr.  Make a giant difference.

4 hours ago, sniper31 said:

I use an Artic Liquid Freezer

Arctic 😉 

1 hour ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Arctic 😉 

Lol, yes, Arctic...was typing fast before dinner 🙂 

11 hours ago, altenae said:

Here is a nice upgrade report (I7-10700K to a 5800X3D)
I wish there was one like this report for I7-10700K to a I7-13700K 😉

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/upgrade-report-10900k-to-5800x3d/546194

Quite a few benchmarks show the 13700k and 5800x3D to be less than 10% difference in MSFS, but in almost every other game, the 13700k wins by a bigger margin. At best, it's practically a tie or a slight win for some in certain situations, it's definitely not going to be much difference. One of the most recent benchmarks I've seen, done about 2 weeks ago, shows the 13700k winning in MSFS by about 8% in both high and low FPS, 150 to 140 FPS. That's a difference of about 50fps to 47fps in real-world scenarios loaded down, almost no difference.

There is no definitive answer. More than likely, if you filter out the fake benchmarks, the discrepancy left is just HW variations and settings. Either CPU will work, it's analysis paralysis. If you are really so concerned about which CPU, then wait for the 7800x3D which will beat them all.

 

Edited November 8, 20223 yr by Alpine Scenery

I use TAA/DLFG with my 13900k/4090 and its wonderful, Its super smooth in DX12 and I get 100-120FPS most places without AI, Once I bring in AI with 65 planes it drops down to 80-90 but still super smooth etc. Makes flying great and have had no issues at all. If they make it so DLSS does not affect screen blurriness I will switch back but until then TAA works just as good for me.

Well the decision is I7-13700K with a Z790 Motherboard.
Now we have another thing to think about.

DDR4 or DDR5. (same price for both motherboards)

I already have DDR4 3600 CL16....
So what should I choose.
New Corsair DDR5 6000 CL 36 is around 260 euro.

16 minutes ago, altenae said:

Well the decision is I7-13700K with a Z790 Motherboard.
Now we have another thing to think about.

DDR4 or DDR5. (same price for both motherboards)

I already have DDR4 3600 CL16....
So what should I choose.
New Corsair DDR5 6000 CL 36 is around 260 euro.

I don't think DDR5 will be a huge benefit to MSFS. I'm not super-knowledgeable on this though, so take it with a grain of salt. I'm sure one of the big tech youtubers have some opinions on this, but not sure relevant it would be to MSFS. 

39 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I don't think DDR5 will be a huge benefit to MSFS. I'm not super-knowledgeable on this though, so take it with a grain of salt. I'm sure one of the big tech youtubers have some opinions on this, but not sure relevant it would be to MSFS. 

Same here. 

Going the ddr5 way is about 120 euro expensiver the the ddr4 route. 

 

2 minutes ago, altenae said:

Same here. 

Going the ddr5 way is about 120 euro expensiver the the ddr4 route. 

 

But will be able to be used in the future, as everything migrates that way. DDR4 may be dead money.. 💁‍♂️

14 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

But will be able to be used in the future, as everything migrates that way. DDR4 may be dead money.. 💁‍♂️

DDR5 it will be.

So :
I7-13700K
MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI
Corsair DDR5 Vengeance RGB 2x16GB 6000
Corsair 5000D
Cooling etc. etc.

23 minutes ago, altenae said:

DDR5 it will be.

So :
I7-13700K
MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI
Corsair DDR5 Vengeance RGB 2x16GB 6000
Corsair 5000D
Cooling etc. etc.

Looks like a solid build so far. 

I'm on AMD after more than 25 yrs using Intel and wouldn't go back now. 5600x here, excellent performance in MFS and XP12.

Edited November 8, 20223 yr by jcomm

The beauty of MSFS is that it runs great on almost anything which attests to the modern development tools that ASOBO has adopted.

I' d like to think that MS .NET plays a big part here since it was my framework of choice before retirement.

Anyway to repeat what many have already said flight simmers are having their cake and eating it too these days.

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