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hey guys, finally upgraded to fs2020 last week after years and years of FSX/P3D. Love alot about it, but a few things I hate. I have noticed, and apparently after some digging, this may or may not even be fixed but, when I save a flight, then reload the flight, it is stuck on (in my case) real world weather and real world Time. the problem is, aside from not being able to change any of it... even though its time and weather are set to real world..when I load the flight they dont update to the current conditions/time of day. as I understand it, once you save a flight..your locked to whatever weather/time settings you had at time of save...however, if its all set to real world, shouldnt it update to the current time upon loading the flight? for me for example, if I save a flight at 2pm, then load it again that evening at 6pm..the sim still loads at 2pm...even though its set to real world...shouldnt this update to the current time? this whole save issue with this sim is VERY off-putting to say the least. any way around this? would active sky or REX and fsreal time override this issue (Ive heard FS real time does in fact work in fs2020)? as of now, I pretty much have to write down my fuel quantities etc and start an entirely new flight where I left off...a big PITA, let alone the fact that if your on a long haul flight and step away, only to come back to a CTD..well...good luck with that mess...almost enough to throw me back to P3D until they get this fixed...that is, if its even on Asobo's radar! Hoping someone here can shed some light on this!!

The save/load feature is not very reliable IMO. Even hitting ESC during a flight with the intention of resuming it the next day is not reliable. I've had the sim freezing up completely with an eventual CTD in several cases. 

I'm planning a world tour in the A310 but I'm not looking forward to the longest trips which are more than 9 hrs. I probably have to leave the sim running overnight and hope for the best. 

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

Saving flight situations / flight plans within MSFS is still a mess. It seems that MS/Asobo don't care much on this. I got used to it, enjoying MSFS as it is.

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- Harry 

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ok, well thanks for the response guys...back to P3D It is...outside of the pretty scenery, this thing is still a freaking mess...even the constant force update garbage is getting irritating and its only been a week. not very intuitive either (camera, menus etc), i find myself missing way too much from the older sims..maybe ill try it again in a couple years.

8 minutes ago, chevelle505 said:

ok, well thanks for the response guys...back to P3D It is...outside of the pretty scenery, this thing is still a freaking mess...even the constant force update garbage is getting irritating and its only been a week. not very intuitive either (camera, menus etc), i find myself missing way too much from the older sims..maybe ill try it again in a couple years.

It's really not that hard to just remember where you left the aircraft and reload there. I always used to save/load in p3d, now I'm used to just loading.

 

Far, far too many plusses for me to consider going back.. ..

 

G

 

Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth"

Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron

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1 minute ago, Gazzareth said:

not that hard to just remember where you left the aircraft and reload there

that's what I do, too. since always flying with Simbrief I latest see there when editing my (last) flightplan  where I ended up and just take it from there for the next hop

Phil Leaven

i5 10600KF, 32 GB 3200 RAM, ASUS 4070 12GB EVO, Asus ROG Z490-H, 2 WD Black NVME for each Win11 (500GB) and MSFS (1TB), Rolling Cache 16GB, Photogrammetry always OFF, Live Weather and Live Traffic always ON, Res 2560x1440 on 27"

2 minutes ago, DAD said:

that's what I do, too. since always flying with Simbrief I latest see there when editing my (last) flightplan  where I ended up and just take it from there for the next hop

LNM normally shows me where I parked anyway, and AH2 tracks my aircraft..... so it works for me !

 

G

Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth"

Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron

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After years on P3D. I can't imagine anyone trying MSFS, and then going back to P3D.   

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Gazzareth said:

LNM normally shows me where I parked anyway, and AH2 tracks my aircraft..... so it works for me !

 

G

What exactly is LNM and AH2? I think for me, having a ctd when crossing the pond in a 747 and hoping you were keeping track of fuel burn so you can edit that back in and exactly what fix you were at becomes a PITA when the updates seem to be constantly breaking the sim causing the CTD issues. I mean for $60 you'd think such a basic element would work, unfortunately too many people are willing to just deal with it, and i think thats why asobo will more than likely never fix it. It sure is shiny and pretty, but the more I dig into it, its seems riddled with bugs and issues still not addressed two years later. Rather than world updates for scenery, id rather see the darn thing work.  As a real world pilot, i can certainly see why alot of people say its more of a game than a simulator. Not bashing it, just not what Id hoped it would be.

1 minute ago, chevelle505 said:

I mean for $60 you'd think such a basic element would work, unfortunately too many people are willing to just deal with it, and i think thats why asobo will more than likely never fix it. It sure is shiny and pretty, but the more I dig into it, its seems riddled with bugs and issues still not addressed two years later. Rather than world updates for scenery, id rather see the darn thing work.  As a real world pilot, i can certainly see why alot of people say its more of a game than a simulator. Not bashing it, just not what Id hoped it would be.


Lol ok sure, you seem to be rather keen on telling us a few things... back to P3D you should go I guess. Happy flying.

Len
1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS
Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD

1 hour ago, chevelle505 said:

ok, well thanks for the response guys...back to P3D It is...outside of the pretty scenery, this thing is still a freaking mess...even the constant force update garbage is getting irritating and its only been a week. not very intuitive either (camera, menus etc), i find myself missing way too much from the older sims..maybe ill try it again in a couple years.

Yep, that's probably a good idea.  I can tell. This isn't the right sim for you. 

Have a nice day. 

i9-10850K, ASUS TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS (WI-FI), 32GB G.SKILL DDR4-3603 / PC4-28800, GIGABYTE RTX5080 16GB WF OC 3 FAN running 3440x1440 

 

You don't have to announce your departure from a forum or a simulator, you know. Best of luck. 

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Taking bets on how long it is before the thread is locked.

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56 minutes ago, Nemo said:

Saving flight situations / flight plans within MSFS is still a mess. It seems that MS/Asobo don't care much on this. I got used to it, enjoying MSFS as it is.

It's not that they don't care. There is still so much for them to do to regarding stability, seasons, historic weather, ATC & AI, etc. so they will concentrate on what we want most (or brings them the most money).
If enough customers care they can vote on the issue and make Asobo care about it too.

About the frozen weather after reloading a flight: Live weather after reloading a flight is a not really possible since without historic weather in MSFS, there is no data on the progress of the weather you had when the flight was saved. The current solution is too keep the weather as it is, without the progress. The alternative would be to replace the saved weather with the current live weather, which is also not a perfect solution.
We really need historic weather in the sim to make this possible.

Flightsim rig:
CPU: AMD 5900x  | Mobo: MSI X570 MEG Unify | RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo | GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3090 | Storage: M.2 (2 & 4 TB) | PSU: Corsair RM850x | Case: Fractal Define 7 XL
Display: Acer Predator x34 3440x1440 | Speakers: Logitech Z906 
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5 minutes ago, orchestra_nl said:

It's not that they don't care. There is still so much for them to do to regarding stability, seasons, historic weather, ATC & AI, etc. so they will concentrate on what we want most (or brings them the most money).
If enough customers care they can vote on the issue and make Asobo care about it too.

About the frozen weather after reloading a flight: Live weather after reloading a flight is a not really possible since without historic weather in MSFS, there is no data on the progress of the weather you had when the flight was saved. The current solution is too keep the weather as it is, without the progress. The alternative would be to replace the saved weather with the current live weather, which is also not a perfect solution.
We really need historic weather in the sim to make this possible.

After 10,s of thousands of hours over the years flying sims, I have never saved a flight and restarted it later. 

 

 

 

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