1 hour ago, pmplayer said:

You can read it everywhere..

Where would that be then?

54 minutes ago, bigifooti said:

Ah, I thought you changed out the whole cooler. A Noctua fan does add a little better airflow and is obviously quieter, but i think the CPU really would benefit from a better cooler. 

Maybe first start with Fan Control. You should be able to ramp up the Fans earlier. https://getfancontrol.com/  Also try to get that case fan to speed up. 

And indeed run your PC with the side panel open or even removed completely. On the internet you read everywhere that the Case HP used doesn't help in any way with airflow. 

 

Next would be to get a CPU cooler upgrade. It might look intimidating to change it out, but it really isn't. There's plenty on youtube to help you out. 

Any cooler that isn't too tall will work. I could find any specs on the Omen case, but because the case is quite slim, I guess you shouldn't go taller than 140mm for a cooler height, and it should fit on a 1151 socket. 

I'm not sure where you are located, but this one will do the trick without breaking the bank; 

https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/1666636/be-quiet-pure-rock-slim-2.html or https://www.microcenter.com/product/640534/be-quiet-pure-rock-slim-2-cpu-cooler

When you buy a new cooler check if it comes with thermal paste. You need that as well. You don't need any fancy thermal paste, saw some for 7 dollars.

 

If you want to go a step further (as in a next step), you could be looking into also buying a new case (100usd range are some very nice cases already). Might be a nice start of building your own system  (be aware, it is a rabit hole... because there is always something new or to improve... 😋). 

 

 

Thanks!  All good suggestions.  Also, I tried changing max processor state to 99%, but apparently that disables turbo boost all together (my clock speed went down to base).  I'm giving undervolting a try with ThrottleStop.  We'll see if that helps.  Anyone use that?  Seems to be working OK, but it's giving me a PL2 warning, which means my short term power limit is exceeding the setting (at 40 now).

3 hours ago, jarmstro said:

I don't agree. It depends on the size of the aluminium finned heat exchanger and the airflow through it.  Liquid cooling sounds 'cool' but it's not as effective. I'm not saying it doesn't work. I am saying that it's unnecessary and less effective.

I think you had it right in an earlier post when you said that you "might have the wrong cooler". No matter what kind of fan you have, the fact remains that water is much more efficient than air (or any gas for that matter) in conducting heat. It has to be, since liquid water has much more mass than an equivalent volume of air). In my case, the water-cooled Alienware Aurora R11 I acquired 2 1/2 years ago has been by far the best of all the umpteen computers I have owned, and is the first to have no cooling problems whatever.

Liquid vs air. You also have to take into account the effectiveness of case fans ( which are probably more important regards shifting the hot air out and cold air in. A lot of pretty led fans are pretty poor at this. I had air cooling, tried liquid for 2=3 years (it sounded sexy) then went back to a decent noctua air and put much better case fans in. There isnt much difference but decent case fans make a huge difference to either solution. 

Thing to remember is if your PC can run MSFS without issues then you have it tuned and configued the best it will ever be.

sp

Edited January 21, 20233 yr by Sky_Pilot071

7 hours ago, jarmstro said:

Liquid cooling is a gimmick.  You are better off with a big aluminium finned cooler which will get rid of the heat far quicker.

The only thing that got my 9900K in a shoebox sized SG13 SFF case to behave was an Artic Liquid Freezer II, it was a tight squeeze but worked.  The largest HSF that would fit was a Big Shuriken 3 and that was not up to handling a 9900K .

2 minutes ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

Thing to remember is if your PC can run MSFS without issues then you have it tuned the best it ever will be.

sp

I'm not trying to spam for any particular company. But if, like me, your main purpose for a PC is to run MSFS, then you should buy your PC from a company specializing in building PCs for flight simulation. Everything, including the sim software, comes preinstalled and pretested and works great. Every component of the PC is hand-selected to work best with MSFS.

My AMD 5900X hybrid cooler has a dual 240mm fan radiator and stays in the 60s.  

Mine is also a prebuild fron NZXT.

sp

Edited January 21, 20233 yr by Sky_Pilot071

42 minutes ago, David Mills said:

you should buy your PC from a company specializing in building PCs for flight simulation.

that company is called: "me-myself-and I"

has been since FS II

31 minutes ago, turbomax said:

that company is called:

Snake-Oil PC.  🙂

BTW my NZXT is the best system I've ever owned.  That includes the several I built myself.   Highly recommended.

My next PC will be an NZXT for sure.

Cheers

sp

Edited January 22, 20233 yr by Sky_Pilot071

8 hours ago, SpaceForceCapt said:

Ambient is around 70-72

Now you've got me wondering, are you measuring your cpu temp in C or F?

3 hours ago, Phantoms said:

are you measuring your cpu temp in C or F?

72 celsius ambient would be 161,6 F ambient 🥵

sounds like an Intel i10-15900KS or you are playing in a sauna.

Edited January 22, 20233 yr by turbomax

6 hours ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

The only thing that got my 9900K in a shoebox sized SG13 SFF case to behave was an Artic Liquid Freezer II, it was a tight squeeze but worked.  The largest HSF that would fit was a Big Shuriken 3 and that was not up to handling a 9900K .

If space is an issue or where airflow through the case is poor then I can see why a water cooler may be helpful. I still think that the popularity of water coolers is based on a fad though. Like programmable rgb led ram sticks it's Christmas every day. It's just unnecessary expense.

Edited January 22, 20233 yr by jarmstro

Water cooling may be more efficient, but he really does not need a water cooler. The simple fact is that stock CPU coolers are generally not good enough for high end gaming/simulation. A decent air cooler/heatsink combo should be able to sort out the temperature problems at that turbo boost speed of 4.3Ghz. As mentioned above, I built my first ever PC three years ago. This is a rather low end system by modern standards, but I have had my i5 7600k CPU running at 4.5Ghz over those three years without any problems whatsoever. Stress tests way back when saw peak temperatures of 72-75C across all four cores. This is with a Noctua NH-U14S air cooler installed. An awesome piece of kit that (just) managed to fit inside the case without bending the side panel or interfering with the RAM. Of course, the dimensions need to be checked for your own system.

Edited January 22, 20233 yr by Christopher Low