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Default HECA is a mess

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I flew into Cairo (HECA) for the first time today. What a mess.

The airport has serious elevation issues with ridiculous high and low parts of the scenery (which makes taxiing impossible) as seen here:
https://imgur.com/1JwzdRV
https://imgur.com/Jekg1lH

And jetways to nowhere...
https://imgur.com/dReaams
https://imgur.com/8IimHr6

This is supposed to be a hand made airport by Asobo!!

Is there a fix for this anywhere?

Edited by BWBriscoe

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5 hours ago, BWBriscoe said:

And jetways to nowhere...

That can happen at every airport that uses the default jetway model (and even some third party models). It's an issue with the LOD system.

As for the rest of the issues I see the elevation ones too, make a thread on the official forums. Asobo won't see it here
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/c/bugs-and-wishlist/airports/203

Edited by Tuskin38

Yes this Airport needs a total makeover, i've ended up there several times - a total disaster is this Airport, shame over Asobo it is a long time now like this..

Needs to be fixed urgently 🤨

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You should open a ticket in Zendesk. Normally you will get a reply on what they are going to do about it.

 

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I reported this a month or two ago.

To be honest, I have had just about enough of the state of the airports in this sim. They really are an absolute mess and it just isn't good enough and if I have one real issue with this sim it's this. Even the airports that you pay so much more for such as KDEN and HECA in the "Super Duper Regal Bespoke DeLuxe Edition" profoundly broken but many of the other "hand-crafted" airports are unusable as well and there is no excuse for it. When they say "hand-crafted" I can only assume that their "equity and diversity" department have hired blind rainbow unicorns and intellectually challenged pixies that are not qualified to "hand-craft" them in order to fulfull their obligations to "the party" resulting is substandard useless pap like this.

It feels now that every airport I try to fly to is unacceptably broken in some way. Signs in the taxiways, elevation issues, jetways not connected to the terminals and that's if the terminal has a building at all! Parking spots that are isolated so GSX won't work etc. The entire beautiful world of MSFS is marred by this unusable nonsense as though someone has painted pockmarks all over the Mona Lisa. I now spend FAR too much time before flying somewhere trying to mitigate the problems with the default airports by loading the sim, checking the state of the airport, then finding a download of a replacement for it, loading the sim again to check the state of the download, then spend time creating parking spaces for GSX because they are all small and won't accept a 737, excluding jetways for that particular airport because of duplucate parking spots etc etc. Often, by the time I have done all this I no longer feel like flying and I feel like I have to do it far too often.

I wish they would prioritise fixing whatever automatic system they developed to create these airports and fix them but there is already no excuse for the state of this "hand-crafted" rubbish. If I have one regret it's paying for the nonsense deluxe version. I should have spent that money on some airports. I don't feel like a mug often these days but they got me on this one.

It's the only thing I think P3D did better. Alright, all the airports in that were uninspiring but at least there were no lights in the taxiways, you could taxi about without using a winch to pull yourself up the elevation problems, the terminals had jetways and your altimeter displayed the correct elevation because the airport was at the correct height in space and time.

 

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Guys, "hand crafted" means exactly that: They were modelled by hand and not auto-generated by the AI. This says nothing about the level of quality, it's a marketing trick.

For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.

1 minute ago, Fiorentoni said:

Guys, "hand crafted" means exactly that: They were modelled by hand and not auto-generated by the AI.

We know what it means. The point is that EVEN the "hand-crafted" airports are unacceptable rubbish and there is absolutely no excuse for it.

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33 minutes ago, Jazz said:

We know what it means. The point is that EVEN the "hand-crafted" airports are unacceptable rubbish and there is absolutely no excuse for it.

I agree. To my quality understanding hand-crafted airports shall be like the Gaya Zurich scenery. That one deserves hand-crafted! Otherwise I hope they will polish up the "hand-crafted" airports for premium users, especially HECA, because it's not fun to fly there, especially at night.

28 minutes ago, 737_800 said:

I agree. To my quality understanding hand-crafted airports shall be like the Gaya Zurich scenery. That one deserves hand-crafted! Otherwise I hope they will polish up the "hand-crafted" airports for premium users, especially HECA, because it's not fun to fly there, especially at night.

I don't expect them to be of a particularly high standard but I do expect them to be usable and they are not.

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@Jazz

I fly into different airports on every flight, sometimes two or three a day. I have had problems on a handful of flights, normally taxi way bumps.. P3D airports were garbage in comparison. 

Edited by Ray Proudfoot
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Some are not that bad but HECA was the worst of them all since MSFS was first released. I am amazed that HECA has been so neglected compared to some other hand- craftet Asobo airports IMO..

cheers 😉

Edited by pmplayer

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1 minute ago, Bobsk8 said:

I fly into different airports on every flight, sometimes two or three a day. I have had problems on a handful of flights, normally taxi way bumps.. P3D airports were garbage in comparison. 

On the day that MSFS came onto the market, it was already foreseeable that all other flight simulators were doomed and whether you liked it or not, I foresaw that back then, because anyone who can think logically is always one step ahead..

Actually, that was already clear at the time.

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23 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I fly into different airports on every flight, sometimes two or three a day. I have had problems on a handful of flights

Lucky you.

 

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21 minutes ago, Jazz said:

Lucky you.

 

Not lucky, I just try to look at the good side of things instead of being a grouch. 

 

 

 

I happily fly into Asobo handcrafted airports and generally find them to be good renditions…or good enough at least for airports I don’t frequently visit.  For airports I use a lot I’ve replaced some with payware versions.

HECA is just a disaster though, there are threads on the official forum on HECA but no fix discussed as of yet.

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