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7950x3D shaping up to demolish the 13900k in MSFS

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34 minutes ago, FBW737 said:

Heck I'm very happy with my 46fps.

which you won't get in VR without highest end hardware or @ 4K in 2D.

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60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

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1 hour ago, turbomax said:

because customers just love all available improvements.

And the customer is always right!

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1 hour ago, odourboy said:

And the customer is always right!

And I as an x-plane customer am always happy to come back here.

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60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

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7 minutes ago, turbomax said:

And I as the x-plane customer am always 

Never mind. Don't want trouble. 😆 

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5 minutes ago, odourboy said:

I thought that was only in France?

poor x-plane customers in France.

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60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

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12 hours ago, FlyIce said:

ahh... I so wish I could say that ("sim nirvana") about my VR performance. VR is just so much demanding on the hardware.

I had been waiting for this day to decide between 7950x3D and 13900K. Glad that I waited. 

Are there any benchmarks for those two chips in MSFS VR?

 


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Haven't seen VR benchmarks. But I believe my 4090 in VR is very much limited by 10850K, so hope 7950x3D will make a big improvement. I use HP Reverb G2. 


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4 hours ago, OzWhitey said:

Are there any benchmarks for those two chips in MSFS VR?

as the 2D benchmarks have shown: the higher the resolution (i.e. graphics load generally speaking, VR should be similar) the closer the fps results between Intel 13900K and AMD Ryzen 7950x3D. but Ryzen will still use a lot less power and dissipate less heat.


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60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

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"This is not the CPU you're looking for".

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These cpu's have very good performance for msfs 2020. In a several years capable 4k graphic cards will be standart so this cpu will show their real performance at 4k too. I have 10700k and 4090, this ring is very cpu limited, at 4k, cpu is at 20 ms and gpu is 10 ms. So time to upgrade for cpu.

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19 hours ago, turbomax said:

which you won't get in VR without highest end hardware or @ 4K in 2D.

I've got it at 4K in 2D with the setting maxed out but you have a fair point for VR but I'm passing on that. Tried it, didn't like it. I prefer TrackIR

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I am not impressed. I have tried AMD CPU's and video Cards over intel and NVidia. My personal opinion AMD is just too buggy. Ryzen has certainly pushed intel to come up with much better products, but AMD just wasn't for me. The higher resolution, The worse AMD seems to get.

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1 minute ago, Patriot3810 said:

I am not impressed. I have tried AMD CPU's and video Cards over intel and NVidia. My personal opinion AMD is just too buggy. Ryzen has certainly pushed intel to come up with much better products, but AMD just wasn't for me. The higher resolution, The worse AMD seems to get.

I assume you did try an AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU right?

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40 minutes ago, Patriot3810 said:

I am not impressed. I have tried AMD CPU's and video Cards over intel and NVidia. My personal opinion AMD is just too buggy. Ryzen has certainly pushed intel to come up with much better products, but AMD just wasn't for me. The higher resolution, The worse AMD seems to get.

But that's true of all cpu's, the higher the res, the more gpu-bound the situation becomes.  4K flattens the differences.  But smoothness is more important than raw fps for us.  Headroom for add-ons, and smoothness are desired goals with any cpu for us.

As @Zangoose notes, it's also possible to have AMD + nvidia which may shape up to be a nice setup for MSFS, at least for the next 6-8 months (until the next great thing comes along).

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Futureproof... funny word... At the end of the year when Intel rolls out the 14th gen clamming a 40% increase in performance or AMD early next year, we'll meet again in a new topic about how great is a 5% - 7% increase in fps @ 4k... 😆

At the rate prices are spiraling up maybe the 14th gen (K, KF,KS) and Ryzen will be around $1000...

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