7 hours ago, cagarini said:

Also noticeable in the latest stages, short final in the above video, that as the pilot adds full prop RPM there is absolutely no fuel flow variation, which only occurs when after a few seconds he also adds throttle...

Is this correctly modelled in this aircraft? Does Fuel Flow stay put with Prop RPM variations without other (throttle or condition, fast altitude change) occuring?

My understanding is that's entirely normal with Turboprop engines and that Prop RPM is adjusted more for passenger comfort than for actual flight performance reasons.

@roland

@mmcmah

Guys, sure...I have not fully tweaked it to my liking as of yet but I will surely IM you the numbers I've started with at least so you can see it's improved. I don't have access to the files right now so I'll send it off to you tonight.

Edited March 8, 20233 yr by hangar

4 hours ago, hangar said:

@sd_flyer - I can't manage 30% torque on a 5 mile final and still make the runway...even very light. See a few examples below which indicate 20-30 should be do-able, or even less on steeper approaches, whereas I can't get the BlackSq flight model to do it without reducing the flap drag.

 

25% torque here:

"With the torque set at 25 per cent, the flaps and landing gear are extended in sequence with no need for a change in power and minimal adjustment of trim."

FLYING THE BEECHCRAFT KING AIR 350i – The World of Aviation

 

30% torque and lower here:

 

15%-30% here:

 

So you think it's a flap issue or rather undepowered engines? I can't remember correctly but before I think I could overtorque engine with full throttle, but now I can't. 

@sd_flyer - technically I do not know as I have not looked into the RW engine performance, nor have I flown high enough to test for the proper cruise speeds. I know they have made some major engine changes in this new patch so I guess you're seeing some of that fallout...it's a balance...fix one thing then something else breaks a bit...you know tha game...there's always choices to be made when it comes to flight dynamics...even in the level D's from what I''ve seen (I used to attend Flight Safety out of KLGA many years ago and had oppty to fly in those). I dont't fell though that the engines are underpowered as I get the correct climb out speeds I'ver ead in a few of those articles...in fact the climb out speeds may be slightly high in the sim (but only slightly so its not worth mentioning really).

They did reduce the available reverse thrust which is a good thing, in fact I've reduced it even a tiny bit further for myself as it's still a bit too powerful from what i can tell.

I will come back with my numbers I'm usiing in a few more hours once im able to get to the sim.

Here's the numbers I've changed:

changes made to the engines.cfg file:

[PROPELLER]
prop_reverse_available=0.010 ;was 0.025; this further reduces reverse thrust

changes made to the flight_model.cfg:

[FLAPS.0]
lift_scalar= 1.15 ;was 1.0
drag_scalar= 1.0 ;was 2.1

27 minutes ago, hangar said:

Here's the numbers I've changed:

changes made to the engines.cfg file:

[PROPELLER]
prop_reverse_available=0.010 ;was 0.025; this further reduces reverse thrust

changes made to the flight_model.cfg:

[FLAPS.0]
lift_scalar= 1.15 ;was 1.0
drag_scalar= 1.0 ;was 2.1

Thanks!

You are right, the drag during approach is much worse than in the previous version

10 minutes ago, qqwertzde said:

Thanks!

You are right, the drag during approach is much worse than in the previous version

Which arguably may help you when you want to slow down... I find that Torque at 40% full dirty works well for me.

Edited March 9, 20233 yr by Bert Pieke

38 minutes ago, qqwertzde said:

You are right, the drag during approach is much worse than in the previous version

Actually they didn't change it in this latest patch...it was 2.1 pre-patch as well, which was too much.

Since the update the plane is broken unless the WT GNS is installed. Or so it seems to me. But if I install the WT GNS it breaks the autopilot on other addon planes I have installed. It's a bit of a pain because this is the only plane that has this behaviour and I've been happy with the PMS 530 mod. 

1 hour ago, jarmstro said:

Since the update the plane is broken unless the WT GNS is installed. Or so it seems to me. But if I install the WT GNS it breaks the autopilot on other addon planes I have installed. It's a bit of a pain because this is the only plane that has this behaviour and I've been happy with the PMS 530 mod. 

Uninstall the PMS 530 mod it could be conflicting.  I don't see any issues with the GNS

1 hour ago, ryanbatc said:

Uninstall the PMS 530 mod it could be conflicting.  I don't see any issues with the GNS

No. It's not that. What I mean is that other planes such as the  P-750 XSTOL (which I quite like) are broken by the WT 530 when it's installed in the official folder rather than have it coded in the plane itself.  The BS King Air is unique in this respect. Most planes that use the WT530/430 do not  require it to be installed in the Official folder such as PMDG DC-6.

Like G1000NXi is the new WTT530/430 the new standard for MSFS. As you mentioned, the P-750 XSTOL will not work with WTT. ORBX (and a few other dev's) has to update the ac to the new standard. BTW it is the reason I hold on to buy it, as much as I want to.

If you use the analog KingAir together with the PMS750 and WTT530/430 in MSFS you have to install the additional mod "pms50-gtn750wtt-aircraft-bksq-kingair" from PMS beside the mod "pms50-gtn750" itself.

The additional mod you will find under: view compatible aircraft > In-cockpit WTT Mode at PMS.

This combination works flawless for me, with all the new features in the KingAir.

As I do not know, the KingAir might still work with the stock 530/430 MSFS after the update 1.3. You can test it out but in this case you have to use the add. mod from the In-cockpit section (without WTT) at PMS. Disadvantage - you will miss all the new features WTT offers, advantage - you can use the P-750 XSTOL without uninstall WTT530.

Best regards, Detlef