1 hour ago, virtuali said:

In these cases, you really need to look at each individual developer past history, and if they used to ask for a repurchase/update fee, just to let you use a basically unmodified add-on (like just a new installer) in a new version of the sim, and judge on a case by case basis.

Honestly even the installer "is not needed" if you ask me, thanks to MSFS easy way to manage add-ones and mods, I'd just re-point my community folder (or copy paste into a new community folder) 😄. I am 99.9% sure, there will be some "ehrm I don't want to say the word" developers who will basically just create a new installer for the same files and cheat the consumers that is a"compatible" version which is a lie obviously to make some extra bucks for free 😄 

Edited June 16, 20232 yr by omarsmak30

To me it is reasonable to assume that any scenery package will work in 2024; where I am not so sure is aircraft, and particularly more complex aircraft with custom flight models. If the weather depiction changes significantly, if the ground handling is modified, this may require changes to those parameter's in the aircraft. If it is now possible to have weather radar, either because of how Asobo structures the weather information or by opening the weather up (something I think they may very well do in this new version given Jorg's comments a month or two ago) these may require modifications that will take time, and potentially justify fees.

7 minutes ago, Cognita said:

To me it is reasonable to assume that any scenery package will work in 2024; where I am not so sure is aircraft, and particularly more complex aircraft with custom flight models. If the weather depiction changes significantly, if the ground handling is modified, this may require changes to those parameter's in the aircraft. If it is now possible to have weather radar, either because of how Asobo structures the weather information or by opening the weather up (something I think they may very well do in this new version given Jorg's comments a month or two ago) these may require modifications that will take time, and potentially justify fees.

Ya that's what I'm expecting when it comes to add-on aircraft, i.e. that they'll continue to work with 2024 as they did in 2020 and even automatically pick up on or benefit from some of the core improvements in the sim maybe... and yes, for some other core sim improvements to really take advantage of those, non-trivial changes might be needed in the aircraft (i.e. new ground handling, new weather radar, some new aspects of flight dynamics, graphical capabilities in the 3d models, etc). And for those enhancements in the aircraft I guess that's where 3PDs might decide to charge an upgrade fee or not.
 

Edited June 16, 20232 yr by lwt1971

On 6/13/2023 at 11:21 AM, rjquick said:

The only information from Microsoft/Asobo is that everything will be fine with existing aircraft.

Surprise surprise!  MSFS 2024 is essentially the same sim as 2020, with some enhancements, of course.  No way they're going to destroy 3rd party or their own content by making a fundamentally different sequel.

3 hours ago, Noel said:

No way they're going to destroy 3rd party or their own content by making a fundamentally different sequel.

Yea, I completely agree. The only small question I have is whether developers will update the aircraft to take advantage of new features and, if they do, whether they will charge for that work. There is no way to know this so I am not saying they will or won't, but will be interested to see how it goes as it suggests the way forward for further iterations.

It would be a great idea to be able to see for a rocket launching sync in real time in Msfs 2024 . Vote up for a yei 🙂

About the 1940s, you take off in planes from a Lionel O gauge railroad flatcars running on your round the Christmas tree layouts.

What a great first post...

I get it. Business. New technology. As long as they fix the ****ing bugs FIRST before adding content. Also, premium deluxe owners should absolutely get a discount or something applicable in my opinion. I bought it to not only support MS/Asobo but wanted those slightly mediocre airports that I replaced with better freeware or payware haha.

10 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

premium deluxe owners should absolutely get a discount or something

Nah, we don't deserve anything more. The Marketplace discount is enough.

We paid for 2020, not 2024.

Edited November 7, 20232 yr by Tuskin38

2 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

Nah, we don't deserve anything more. The Marketplace discount is enough.

We paid for 2020, not 2024.

That's your opinion. A marketplace discount might be enough for me to carry over.

A great deal of the premium planes and scenery locations were less than ideal upon release and even several months after. Asobo barely touched their planes with updates much less the premium planes. Modders took care of that for us but that is my point... With all the bugs, performance issues, CTD's (with no addons installed) I'd rather see bug fixes and optimization before fancy scenery released.

I paid for premium content and really didn't get a lot out of it. I don't think I got my money's worth seeing that modders had to take care of Asobo's mess of bugs and lack of updates.

If it weren't for JayDee, WorkingTitle and MugZ (and dozens of others) etc in the beginning, I wouldn't have flown some of these planes.

I am sure several of you agree that, especially in the beginning, their premium/deluxe content was mildly worth the price.

7 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

I paid for premium content and really didn't get a lot out of it. I don't think I got my money's worth seeing that modders had to take care of Asobo's mess of bugs and lack of updates.

If it weren't for JayDee, WorkingTitle and MugZ (and dozens of others) etc in the beginning, I wouldn't have flown some of these planes.

I am sure several of you agree that, especially in the beginning, their premium/deluxe content was mildly worth the price.

I have to LOL when I read comments about "value" in MSFS.  Never ever did $119 get you what we have now and at release even with its shortcomings.  And, "lack of updates"?  What I recall is the $1000s spent on FSX/P3D for what amounts to garbage by today's standards in MSFS--you'd be hard pressed to describe the benefits of, the changes implemented in these major P3D new versions save the conversion to 64 bit.  3rd party people that addressed issues were there in the prior sims as well and are a big part of the entire venue no matter which sim we discuss.

On 6/12/2023 at 11:47 AM, Ixoye said:

I wonder if we have to redo all the control settings from scratch? It's not something I feel like go through again.

Nobody is going to force you to buy the next version.

On 6/16/2023 at 5:56 PM, Cognita said:

The only small question I have is whether developers will update the aircraft to take advantage of new features

Is this a serious question?

5 minutes ago, Noel said:

I have to LOL when I read comments about "value" in MSFS.  Never ever did $119 get you what we have now and at release even with its shortcomings.  And, "lack of updates"?  What I recall is the $1000s spent on FSX/P3D for what amounts to garbage by today's standards in MSFS--you'd be hard pressed to describe the benefits of, the changes implemented in these major P3D new versions save the conversion to 64 bit.  3rd party people that addressed issues were there in the prior sims as well and are a big part of the entire venue no matter which sim we discuss.

Thank goodness I wasn't talking about P3d